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Old 02-01-2010, 06:43 PM   #1
 
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The "solo" at 5:45 is just terrible. I played it better the first time I tried to learn it at 13.

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Ouch!

To be fair, Page never was that great a live player. Once Zeppelin started doing extended sets in the early '70s, it seems like Page lost much of the edge in his live work.

The worst thing the heroin did was to kill his ability to craft amazing music in the studio. His work on Presence might be the best guitar stuff he ever did, but then he dropped off a cliff. The worst thing I ever heard by him were demos that he did in 1981-82 with Chris Squire and Alan White of Yes for a project that was going to be called XYZ. Maybe the final album would have been better, but Page sounded totally off.
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Haha I feel sorry for Clapton.

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I've never liked Page's live solo work... just a loose, sloppy mess. But everything leading up to that was just gold.

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anyone else thought this was going to be a pantera thread? nirvana?
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anyone else thought this was going to be a pantera thread? nirvana?
Eh, they're half-ass heroin addicts compared to the 70s guys! You kids know nothing about true drug problems!

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Eh, they're half-ass heroin addicts compared to the 70s guys! You kids know nothing about true drug problems!

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What about Layne Staley, he knew all too well the problems with drug addiction

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ooof, that was terrible. someone even threw something at him @8.34

And there's no such thing as a true drugproblem, if you have one, you have one.
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Yeah I've always thought he got a bit too into it and let his stage performance get in the way of actually playing.

I remember watching this live -


... and thinkin "who's that fat Chinese guy with Eminem and Kurt Cobain?" Anyway, I remember afterwards there was a big rave about how his performance was awful and he needs to stop etc. It wasn't THAT bad, but some of his note choices when he first comes out are a little... experimental
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I've seen a ton of live Jimmy Page performances and he's always sloppy to some extent or another. It's part of his style and he's never denied it. I remember reading an interview where he called himself the "sloppiest player in the UK." But his performances were usually divided into ones that were really "on" and ones that were "off." I don't know if heroin was the cause for the ones that were "off," but he had some awesome performances and some pretty bad ones.
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