Lets Talk About Recs!

[Greg McCoy]

Well part of the attraction to Dual Recs is they go for pretty reasonable prices used. I'm not looking for the ultimate amp, just a different flavor to complement what I already have.

[Greg McCoy]

Originally Posted by noodles

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Better period. I have never been a fan of the 3ch Dual (although I love the 3ch Triple), but the new one seems to be the best of both worlds: the tight, crushing rhythm sound of channel three, and the smooth lead tone of the 2ch Dual.

Having said that, you should still get the Triple. It is the better amp in every single way.

Tell me about Stilletos. I was also contemplating those in the reasonably priced used Mesas catergory. I played a Deuce head that was sevrely underwhelming, but I wasn't able to get proper volume going either.

[noodles]

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Avoid the first version, since it flat out blows. You can tell the second version by the II above the input jack. The amp sounds like a really good Marshall with a lot more gain, through a Mesa filter. All that glassy top end is there, along with the distinctive EL-34 midrange crunch, but the preamp is definitely Mesa.

They sound AWESOME when played with a Recto, since the two amps fill the gaps in the tone that each has by itself. If you have a co-guitarist with a Recto, it is the amp to get. You don't boost them for rhythm, either, since they already have the gain character you need, much the way a 5150 does. For leads, I use a gEQ in the loop to fatten up the lower mids, since it is only a two channel amp (but with a solo boost).

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Just get a Roadster. It, IMO, sounds better than either the old or new 3-channels.

agreed

strangley the Roadster is actually the same price as a 2010 dual rec in the UK

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by noodles

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Avoid the first version, since it flat out blows. You can tell the second version by the II above the input jack. The amp sounds like a really good Marshall with a lot more gain, through a Mesa filter. All that glassy top end is there, along with the distinctive EL-34 midrange crunch, but the preamp is definitely Mesa.

They sound AWESOME when played with a Recto, since the two amps fill the gaps in the tone that each has by itself. If you have a co-guitarist with a Recto, it is the amp to get. You don't boost them for rhythm, either, since they already have the gain character you need, much the way a 5150 does. For leads, I use a gEQ in the loop to fatten up the lower mids, since it is only a two channel amp (but with a solo boost).

Agreed. It's like the best Marshall that Marshall never made, made for Mesa fanboys like me.

[Greg McCoy]

Originally Posted by noodles

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Avoid the first version, since it flat out blows. You can tell the second version by the II above the input jack. The amp sounds like a really good Marshall with a lot more gain, through a Mesa filter. All that glassy top end is there, along with the distinctive EL-34 midrange crunch, but the preamp is definitely Mesa.

They sound AWESOME when played with a Recto, since the two amps fill the gaps in the tone that each has by itself. If you have a co-guitarist with a Recto, it is the amp to get. You don't boost them for rhythm, either, since they already have the gain character you need, much the way a 5150 does. For leads, I use a gEQ in the loop to fatten up the lower mids, since it is only a two channel amp (but with a solo boost).

Well I had to have played the first version then, because it really blew. Since I can't be bothered to do my own research, what are some of the differences between the ace/deuce/trident?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Rogueleader

Well I had to have played the first version then, because it really blew. Since I can't be bothered to do my own research, what are some of the differences between the ace/deuce/trident?

The Ace combo is one of the best amps Mesa makes, period. I have yet to hear one that didn't sound outstanding.

I noticed almost no difference between the Deuce and Trident, though I've only played a Trident for a few minutes. It's definitely not the dramatic difference you get between the Dual and Triple.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Rogueleader

what are some of the differences between the ace/deuce/trident?

50/100/150 watts, just like the Single/Dual/Triple Recs. The Deuce and Trident have two and three rectifier tubes, while the Ace only comes in solid state, just like Rectos. The Ace also comes in a 1x12 combo that is probably one of the best combos Mesa has ever made.

[Greg McCoy]

Originally Posted by noodles

50/100/150 watts, just like the Single/Dual/Triple Recs. The Deuce and Trident have two and three rectifier tubes, while the Ace only comes in solid state, just like Rectos. The Ace also comes in a 1x12 combo that is probably one of the best combos Mesa has ever made.

I'll have to keep an eye out for those. I see the heads go for ~$900 used from time to time.

[Greg McCoy]

Originally Posted by Mike

The Ace combo is one of the best amps Mesa makes, period. I have yet to hear one that didn't sound outstanding.

I noticed almost no difference between the Deuce and Trident, though I've only played a Trident for a few minutes. It's definitely not the dramatic difference you get between the Dual and Triple.

Even the first version of the Ace combo? I think there is still one for sale on the rig talk forums for around $800, but it is the first version.