Originally Posted by Nick
Because those are like, digital, and fake maaannn.
Seriously though if its because of the tweaking aspect, wait for the AX8.
Here's my take on bedroom amps... If you're looking for something JUST for the bedroom, maaaybe with the occasional small jam, go with a solid state. There's just not really any sense with tubes at that level. Exception possibly being with the 1-5 watt amps that are out now, although I've never had my hands on those personally.
If you want something that will do everything, go with a tube amp that doesn't rely heavily on saturation of the power section. In the past I was always able to get great bedroom level tones out of an ENGL Savage & a Peavy XXX, both with a 4x12 Mesa cab and a 2x12 Vader (the vader did better though). On the other hand my Carvin X100B didn't sound like shit until it was at gig/full practice volumes. Sure, no tube amp is really going to sound as good as it does cranked when its choked down to bedroom level. But if you stop yourself from trying to get that cranked tone in the bedroom and just go for a GOOD tone, you can get there.
Personally though, with modeling units where they are today, I just can't see any great reason to go with anything other than a processor whether its a floor unit or rack mounted. They only become tweak fests if you want them to become tweak fests or if you just can't stop yourself from doing it. You then get the flexibility of playing through studio monitors at home, or hooking up to any solid state power amp with a 1x12 or whatever speaker setup. When its time to gig or practice you can move up to a tube power amp & a stack or just plug into the PA. Not to mention the ease of recording & re-amping. With my PodHD I've taken to just dialing up a patch that I can enjoy playing through--takes all of about 5 minutes--and then record with that making sure to record the DI track as well. That way when I'm not feeling like jamming/writing/recording new stuff, I can use THAT time to send the DI's back through the unit and tweak the living dog shit out of them to get the recorded tone I want.
So I guess my questions would be:
Other than bedroom jamming, what other use will you have for the amp?
Why such a hard no to modellers?
And how much do you want to spend, will you buy used?