NGD: Strandberg #15

[jacksonplayer]

Damn, bulb, do you have a warehouse for all these guitars?

Nice, BTW.

[bulb]

Originally Posted by noodles

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Odd, since I always figured it would be the left hands paying all the difficulties. I've got one in the works, but it is 25-27. Is that what you had before?

The Oni i had was 25-27. With a fan as big as 2 inches id say both hands would pay inevitably but you can split the difference so that neither your left or your right have to do ridiculous things. The Blackmachine actually had an even bigger fan if memory serves, and the biggest problem i had with both of those guitars is the fact that the severely angled bridge made palm mutes very uneven, you would either choke the lower strings or be too loose on the higher ones, and when you palm mute 4 or more notes that can be an issue.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by bulb

The Oni i had was 25-27. With a fan as big as 2 inches id say both hands would pay inevitably but you can split the difference so that neither your left or your right have to do ridiculous things. The Blackmachine actually had an even bigger fan if memory serves, and the biggest problem i had with both of those guitars is the fact that the severely angled bridge made palm mutes very uneven, you would either choke the lower strings or be too loose on the higher ones, and when you palm mute 4 or more notes that can be an issue.

Where was the "straight" fret on those? I am assuming that made the biggest playability difference. It also seems to me that the more exaggerated spans being on the upper frets would be easier to compensate with the left hand, bt harder on the right.

I don't know enough about your technique, but I'm a thrash guy, and never really have to palm mute more than two strings at a time. Are you muting more than that?

[Matt C]

I think djent by definition is the sound of multiple strings being palm muted at once. :bulb:

[elq]

The blackmachine had a really extreme bridge angle -



which would make it harder to play (I would imagine)


When Dan and I spoke about the fan on my Oni 8, he stressed how large scale differences had a big impact on playability.

[shannon]

Originally Posted by elq

The blackmachine had a really extreme bridge angle -



which would make it harder to play (I would imagine)


When Dan and I spoke about the fan on my Oni 8, he stressed how large scale differences had a big impact on playability.

Looks like the 5th fret is the perpindicular fret, so yeah, it makes the upper register & bridge a bit more interesting to manage. When it comes to guitars, you have to think about CHORDS, so too much of an extreme fan will make it challenging for chord work.

My Dingwall 5-string bass has a 34-37" fan w/ the 7th fret as the perpindicular & I wouldn't want anymore than that. All the money frets (15th and below) are great, but I do have to think a bit when I get passed the 15th. But really, how often does a bassist play up there? Thus the term, "money frets."

[noodles]

Originally Posted by elq

The blackmachine had a really extreme bridge angle -

Yeah, that is pretty extreme. This is what I'm looking at:

[shannon]

Yeah, 25-27" should be just fine, but I really wouldn't push it past that unless you want to essentially re-learn guitar.

[budda]

Hot damn.

[dpm]

The 'straight' fret on the Oni is the 9th. I call it the perpendicular fret, being perpendicular to the center line. I've found that the 2" fan on a 7 is about the limit when it comes to not effecting technique too much, and getting the most out of the tension/pitch side of things, but of course it depends on the exact design and the player. I checked the bridge angle on the Strandberg compared to the Oni (import the pic to CAD and trace the angle), and it looks like about 6 to 8 degrees less. The Strandberg has the perpendicular fret at the 6th by the looks of things, so it's biased towards more bridge angle than nut angle. I've found that the palm muting/bridge angle side of things is definitely harder to adapt to than the fretting hand differences, you do have to get a little more mobile with the picking hand which is difficult after years of locking it into one spot.

Anyways, nice new gitarrrrr Bulber!