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    Hey guys, so lately I have been totally sick of my playing. Bored with my arrangements, solos, riffing, chord progressions, etc,

    I am fixing my solo issues by working on jazz and funk stuff, but my riffing is just boring and needs work.

    My riffing approach now is very piano like. I use the bass strings the way a piano player uses their left hand, to outline the chord progression, and I use the treble strings for melody, like a pianists right hand.

    I need to get out of this and get riffs that groove more. What is a good song to study for this. Mattyus, looking at you, as I love your riffing style

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    Learn a bunch of King's X songs. It's good for your time because it's groovy as hell, and it's also really unique and interesting. Just learn all of Dogman.

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    New Whitechapel, any Fear Factory, try some Devildriver
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    Depends on the style you want to go for. I've found a lot of useful influences in bands like Suffocation, Vital Remains etc for some of the more "death metal" parts of my bands, but I'm always a sucker for At The Gates, In Flames and Scar Symmetry kind of riffs too. Death have influenced my playing hugely in the past few years, anything off Symbolic or Sounds Of Perseverance really does it for me.

    Other bands where I'd pick specific riffs would be Evergrey (Fear, The Masterplan), most of Iced Earth's Horrow Show (Wolf and Phantom Opera Ghost specifically), Behemoth's Reign of Shemsu Hor, Decapitated's Post Organic, Keep Of Kalessin's Reptilian album, and Omnium Gatherum's New World Shadows album.

    I could go on for days, but most of them have contributed to a lot of my playing in the past few years and influenced the riffs that I come out with.

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    Well for the right blend of groove, articulation, and power, it's pretty obvious but I'll recommend Pantera. Vulgar Display of Power and Far Beyond Driven specifically. Cowboys... meh, cool riffs but they aren't really any different from your typical hair metal groove-rock riffs that came before it. Vulgar and FBD are where he really honed in on that perfect recipe of groove and aggression. A lot of the stuff sounds incredibly simple, until you try to play it. Or, more importantly, try to play it like he played it. You'll soon realise the gaps in your technique!

    Another great inspiration is Nuno Bettencourt, especially on Pornograffitti. Some insanely groovy riffs on that, that have to be played with real precision.

    Groove is an odd paradox of sorts, in that it's associated with loose/jammed-style playing, but if it's not played tightly then the groove is lost.

    For that reason, even though it's not generally synonymous with groove per se, I follow Stu in recommending Iced Earth. Because once your right hand is accustomed to play that rhythmically, it translates perfectly to slower speeds and getting that groove right in the pocket.

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    i have the same problem - i can write those string skipping chord progression riffs all day but after a while it just gets a bit stale. I struggle with more groove orientated stuff but i think thats because i pretty much learned to play the guitar to slaughter of the soul and all the haunted albums.

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