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7 Dying Trees
03-23-2020, 08:48 PM
So, here we are, week 3 of the mg.org something for everyone challenge. Born out of some people liking doing covers, whilst others like writing songs, with a combination of a few people just not having enough time to do full songs (hence the lead a week). Do one, 2 or all 3. Also, it means I only have to track one of these per week.

The point totals after week 2 are as follows:
Markus: 40
Connor: 30
Iron1: 20
Rev Drucifer: 20
7DT: 20
scole: 20
Randy: 10
T Gobbs: 10
Nick: -1 (for posting a mixtest)
Vince: 10
Mattayus: 10

Rules are simple, do 1-3 things every week, Post your creations in the weekly thread as soundcloud/youtube links. I'm aiming to get various contributions for backing tracks, each one will be credited to the author. As it's the first week I'm doing a dropbox download, but we should get some dedicated hosting or something like that courtesy of chris. If you gave me a backing track, then you get bonus 10 points too, I am instigating that, as work should be rewarded. And points mean prizes (whatever that means)

The deadline for this week is end of play, Sunday 29th March

Short rules:
- You have until sunday midnight/monday morning to post your submission
- Either do an original song, a cover/medley or a lead over the provided backing track per week.
- Submissions must be stuff you've done this week, no matter how awesome an old track/recording is
- 10 points for each submission, per category.
- submissions as souncloud or youtube links. Well, as long as it is playable from a post in the thread really.
- You can do multiple entries per category, but only the first one will score points.
- no eliminations, do your stuff as and when you can
- leads can be layer, melodies, you can chop and rearrange the track, whatever floats your boat really
- Don't be a dick to other people. You can go to ss.org for that.
- Don't steal other peoples songs
- Don't steal backing tracks or pass it off as your own, give credit where it's due if you want to share your awesome yngwie malmsteen unleash the fjokking fjury face melting solo.

LAW Track:

This weeks backing track is courtesy of this forums groove as fuck metal maestro Mayttayus. Key unkown, tempo is 95bpm. Many thanks to Mattayus for contributing this awesome bit of stomp! :

LAW TRACKS (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ytsnyn7x1pfvro8/AAB3dZvWl7oHq006aW811zpFa?dl=0)

Have fun peoples!

Markus
03-23-2020, 08:59 PM
I'm missing 10 points! ;) Did a lead and a cover the first week and a song and cover the 2nd week.

7 Dying Trees
03-23-2020, 09:07 PM
I'm missing 10 points! ;) Did a lead and a cover the first week and a song and cover the 2nd week.

fixed, thjere's a reason you were top!

Connor
03-23-2020, 09:14 PM
You have me listed twice :lol:

Edit: And I should only have 30 points (two SAW, 1 LAW)

scole
03-24-2020, 12:13 AM
I’m also missing another 10 points :D

7 Dying Trees
03-24-2020, 02:05 PM
anything else i'm missing?

Iron1
03-24-2020, 03:43 PM
anything else i'm missing?

My throne, scepter, denim jacket with SAW CHAMPION back patch and chest full of ceramic mags for winning the other seasons...

j/k

:tomato::tomato::tomato::tomato:

schreckmusic
03-24-2020, 04:30 PM
This weeks backing track is courtesy of this forums groove as fuck metal maestro Mayttayus. Key unkown, tempo is 95bpm. Many thanks to Mattayus for contributing this awesome bit of stomp! [Chris-Rant] Wheres the album bro?[/Chris-Rant]

Cool stuff as usual Matt!

Mattayus
03-25-2020, 09:48 PM
That was an idea that never made it into my thrash band, so it'll be in Eb. Key starts in Fm then moves to Ebm IIRC.

Iron1
03-26-2020, 09:51 AM
That was an idea that never made it into my thrash band, so it'll be in Eb. Key starts in Fm then moves to Ebm IIRC.

Good stuff. If I could actually play a lead I'd be all over that.

Rev Drucifer
03-26-2020, 05:55 PM
I’m taking off from work a bit early today as I’ve been cooped up in my office all week and I’m going stir crazy. I don’t mean to sound like I’m complaining to be at work as I know people are stuck doing the same thing in their homes without pay right now, but it’s also a bit of a burden to have to expose myself daily when I can do 98% of my job from home...while playing my guitar.

Iron1
03-28-2020, 01:38 PM
Had some really cool inspiration when I started this one, then the week sucked the life outta me, hence the title...

File this under "give me my 10 points so I can move on"...

https://soundcloud.com/iron1/lesslife-3-0-2

Randy
03-28-2020, 04:31 PM
Did a partial LAW, as I warned of last week :lol: Would rather stick with doing a finite section I feel like I can "write" something for as opposed to a minute and a half of noodling. Matt also made it especially hard with all those damn chord changes :rofl:

One take. Right before the sweeps sounds choppy like a punch because I couldn't get a uniform resolve before that, so i just paused. Panning and volume done in post obv. EDIT: Feedback is an Ebow in 'harmonic mode'

https://soundcloud.com/randysnonsense/mattlaw-01

Markus
03-28-2020, 05:57 PM
Had some really cool inspiration when I started this one, then the week sucked the life outta me, hence the title...


https://soundcloud.com/iron1/lesslife-3-0-2

Hard to be inspired every week. There's definitely some nice ideas there anyway, almost death-doom like.




Did a partial LAW, as I warned of last week :lol: Would rather stick with doing a finite section I feel like I can "write" something for as opposed to a minute and a half of noodling. Matt also made it especially hard with all those damn chord changes :rofl:

One take. Right before the sweeps sounds choppy like a punch because I couldn't get a uniform resolve before that, so i just paused. Panning and volume done in post obv. EDIT: Feedback is an Ebow in 'harmonic mode'

https://soundcloud.com/randysnonsense/mattlaw-01

The ebow stuff is really cool, I've been considering a sustainer/sustainiac to be able to do those.


I'm working on more doom - trying to do some vocals as well, but writing lyrics isn't really my thing.

Randy
03-28-2020, 09:57 PM
The ebow stuff is really cool, I've been considering a sustainer/sustainiac to be able to do those.


I'm working on more doom - trying to do some vocals as well, but writing lyrics isn't really my thing.

Thanks. I bought the ebow to go with the fretless build I posted some time ago (haven't done much with it though). Most of the ebow work is inspired by Fountainhead but this particular track was kinda inspired by the solo from 'Motherload' by Mastodon.

Inability to write lyrics was actually one of the main hurdles I had in songwriting. There was a thread I posted on here that was very therapeutic and opening myself up to lyric writing went a long way toward unsticking my music writing overall. I find that the same internal critic that is overly critical of lyrics is the same internal critic that slows the songwriting process. Food for thought.

I've got a mountain of ideas over the last few years and even made some progress on recording them (2 to 3 albums worth!) I just moved in the last year and haven't had an adequate recording station since then. Would like to contribute some full songs or pieces if I can resolve my workflow.

Markus
03-29-2020, 10:59 AM
Here's mine. Didn't come up with any good vocal melodies, but might try again at some later point,

https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3

Rev Drucifer
03-29-2020, 11:00 PM
I'm actually pretty stoked with my submission this week. I sat in my studio earlier this week and for the first time in a while, enjoyed a little herbal recreation. Opened up Logic, started noodling and within about an hour had a good amount of the riffs in this song gathered. I organized those into the first half and for the second half I wanted to 'write' it by improvising the guitar track and then writing the drums to it after. It's a bit long, but I've already written vocal melodies for the entire second half, including the whole start/stop section. After I cleaned up my studio a couple weeks ago, I've got the Korg TR-1 rack ready to go all the time, it's got some of the base sounds that Derek Sherinian used on Falling Into Infinity and those are my favorite keyboard sounds of all time. A lot of the drums were programmed at work in my office because this one was definitely an undertaking. The only shite part of it all is that I didn't check my guitar tuning enough and as the song goes on, you can hear some slight chorusing from the strings being a couple cents off from each other. Especially when the synth is playing under them. The intro is a double tracked 12 string with a shitload of compression and EQ (the raw tracks sound like SHIT). I used an actual amp for the first harmony guitars you hear in the beginning because I really wanted it to start with that feedback and wasn't getting it to kick in right away with the AxeFX. Lots of synth shit from Alchemy in the intro. When I started recording music on my own, this is the EXACT idea I had in mind for what I wanted to write.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/volatile-gentleman-sanitation-room

Off to go listen to this week's submissions then I'm gonna fuck around with the LOTW!

Connor
03-29-2020, 11:25 PM
Nice one, Rev, my favorite of yours this season. That intro is awesome and the guitars sound great (again), those chugs at the end are devastating.

I started off the week highly motivated but pulled a muscle in my mid back and it made playing guitar for any real length of time nigh impossible so this came out pretty rough/short. I'd intended to LAW again this week but oh well :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

Rev Drucifer
03-29-2020, 11:31 PM
Had some really cool inspiration when I started this one, then the week sucked the life outta me, hence the title...

File this under "give me my 10 points so I can move on"...

https://soundcloud.com/iron1/lesslife-3-0-2

Your tones remind me of a giant, rusty pipe with many sharp corroded pieces missing that's used to beat people with. I mean that in a good way. The lack of inspiration I think lent itself to the song, the feeling of emptiness was present, but not in a negative way.


Did a partial LAW, as I warned of last week :lol: Would rather stick with doing a finite section I feel like I can "write" something for as opposed to a minute and a half of noodling. Matt also made it especially hard with all those damn chord changes :rofl:

One take. Right before the sweeps sounds choppy like a punch because I couldn't get a uniform resolve before that, so i just paused. Panning and volume done in post obv. EDIT: Feedback is an Ebow in 'harmonic mode'

https://soundcloud.com/randysnonsense/mattlaw-01

Definitely a cool approach, I wasn't expecting with the Ebow! I dug the pacing leading up to the sweeps at the end instead of busting a nut at the start.


Here's mine. Didn't come up with any good vocal melodies, but might try again at some later point,

https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3

Man, this one has a feeling of despair in it like Iron1's. In our current global situation, it's so fitting and for me, represents that actual feeling of the world without the hyper-paced media aspect of it. Really dug the way it slowly built up as it went along.

I see Connor posted his, so now I'm off to listen to that and surely feel bad about myself like I usually do when I listen to his submissions.

Rev Drucifer
03-29-2020, 11:36 PM
Nice one, Rev, my favorite of yours this season. That intro is awesome and the guitars sound great (again), those chugs at the end are devastating.

I started off the week highly motivated but pulled a muscle in my mid back and it made playing guitar for any real length of time nigh impossible so this came out pretty rough/short. I'd intended to LAW again this week but oh well :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

I fucking love the sounds you throw into your songs, man. You really blend shit together perfectly and all the glitch/stutter stuff is killer. I'm not into most of what I hear with the modern guys doing that kind of thing, but I love everything you've posted. I meant to bring this up last week and this week's song didn't feature it as much as your last two, but CkY could totally get Chris to stop singing and have you join, you can nail Devon's laid back vocals!

Oh yeah, the chugs at the end of mine, those 808's really lend themselves to that section! It might be passe' these days, but IDGAF, I love em.

Iron1
03-30-2020, 12:10 AM
Here's mine. Didn't come up with any good vocal melodies, but might try again at some later point,

https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3

Love the progression this goes through, it swells, breathes and goes through some real "death throes" as you build the atmosphere. Somewhere there's a horror video game missing this soundtrack.


When I started recording music on my own, this is the EXACT idea I had in mind for what I wanted to write.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/volatile-gentleman-sanitation-room



Wowsa, that intro and first section are amazing. I'd pay money for an entire album of that, in a heartbeat.




I started off the week highly motivated but pulled a muscle in my mid back and it made playing guitar for any real length of time nigh impossible so this came out pretty rough/short. I'd intended to LAW again this week but oh well :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

And this sits really nicely in an album of your earlier submissions - great job, again!

Gotta say, I think this might be the best season we've seen so far from all three of y'all. More please!

Randy
03-30-2020, 01:40 AM
https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3

Great atmosphere and chord work.


https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/volatile-gentleman-sanitation-room

Cool track, reminds me of Blues Saraceno's dark country/blues stuff.


https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

Tuning? Sounds like an 8-string.


Definitely a cool approach, I wasn't expecting with the Ebow! I dug the pacing leading up to the sweeps at the end instead of busting a nut at the start.

Thanks! My first LAW was heavily Michael Amott inspired, where he uses a lot of scalar melody play. This one obviously the Ebow stuff I mentioned, the melody stuff I'd say mostly inspired by my friend (second guitar player in my old band) who's a Satriani/Vai junky, and one of the things they do that he does a lot is coming up with a vocal-esque melody and playing variations of it in different octaves, which is one of the traits that makes a lead "humable" and familiar. The goal was to deliberately contrast the sweeps, those I think I get a lot from maybe Mike Keane, the After the Burial guys and maybe a little MAB or Rusty? The idea of a pretty standard minor or harmonic minor arpeggio, anchoring on the root notes and spreading the interval higher and lower to create tension and give it a little more flavor, then resolve on the root or fifth.

scole
03-30-2020, 03:24 AM
I still need to check out everyone's submissions but here's mine:

https://soundcloud.com/stevecolemusic/times-up

I had a hell of a time with this one because the guitar rhythm was more on the "and" of the beats rather than the 1/2/3/4s. I also have some latency issues I still need to sort out.

Connor
03-30-2020, 04:09 AM
I still need to check out everyone's submissions but here's mine:

https://soundcloud.com/stevecolemusic/times-up

I had a hell of a time with this one because the guitar rhythm was more on the "and" of the beats rather than the 1/2/3/4s. I also have some latency issues I still need to sort out.

I'm a sucker for delay soaked stuff like this, sounds awesome :yesway:



Tuning? Sounds like an 8-string.

You're basically right, it's pretty close to an 8 string tuning without the high string, EAEADF#B on a 7. Been messing around with it for all of the SAW stuff this season after receiving a guitar setup that way. Although I actually used a different guitar this week because I didn't get on that well with the Aftermath in the other one.


I fucking love the sounds you throw into your songs, man. You really blend shit together perfectly and all the glitch/stutter stuff is killer. I'm not into most of what I hear with the modern guys doing that kind of thing, but I love everything you've posted. I meant to bring this up last week and this week's song didn't feature it as much as your last two, but CkY could totally get Chris to stop singing and have you join, you can nail Devon's laid back vocals!

Oh yeah, the chugs at the end of mine, those 808's really lend themselves to that section! It might be passe' these days, but IDGAF, I love em.
Really appreciate the kind words from you and everyone else who takes the time to listen, I've never been in the habit of putting my music out there but the encouragement helps me motivated.




I see Connor posted his, so now I'm off to listen to that and surely feel bad about myself like I usually do when I listen to his submissions.

:lol: Your stuff is great dude, especially when you finish them up with vocals too!


Here's mine. Didn't come up with any good vocal melodies, but might try again at some later point,

https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3
Always dig your stuff man, the clean sections reminded me a little of Opeth :metal:


Had some really cool inspiration when I started this one, then the week sucked the life outta me, hence the title...

File this under "give me my 10 points so I can move on"...

https://soundcloud.com/iron1/lesslife-3-0-2

I like the slow vibe, I went for something slower this week too, but I think you pulled it off better. Your drums feel purposefully sparse, whereas mine just felt a bit lacking to me.


Good stuff everyone!

Rev Drucifer
03-30-2020, 04:53 AM
Just in the nick of time!

Here's a sloppy LOTW. I started around 11Pm and just took a bunch of takes until 11:45 and went with the last take I did. I'm so not in shape for playing leads and my fingers are feelin' the burn now.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/lotw3

Rev Drucifer
03-30-2020, 05:01 AM
I still need to check out everyone's submissions but here's mine:

https://soundcloud.com/stevecolemusic/times-up

I had a hell of a time with this one because the guitar rhythm was more on the "and" of the beats rather than the 1/2/3/4s. I also have some latency issues I still need to sort out.

Easily my favorite thing you've done so far. That's so chill and I love anything with delay on it, so it's an automatic win in my book. Those drums sound fucking GREAT dude. What program are you using? You've probably said it before, but I can't remember. Everything, kick snare and cymbals are all just fucking perfect. I nominate that tune for next week's LOTW track.

Markus
03-30-2020, 09:05 AM
Great tunes from everyone this week!


I'm actually pretty stoked with my submission this week. I sat in my studio earlier this week and for the first time in a while, enjoyed a little herbal recreation. Opened up Logic, started noodling and within about an hour had a good amount of the riffs in this song gathered. I organized those into the first half and for the second half I wanted to 'write' it by improvising the guitar track and then writing the drums to it after. It's a bit long, but I've already written vocal melodies for the entire second half, including the whole start/stop section. After I cleaned up my studio a couple weeks ago, I've got the Korg TR-1 rack ready to go all the time, it's got some of the base sounds that Derek Sherinian used on Falling Into Infinity and those are my favorite keyboard sounds of all time. A lot of the drums were programmed at work in my office because this one was definitely an undertaking. The only shite part of it all is that I didn't check my guitar tuning enough and as the song goes on, you can hear some slight chorusing from the strings being a couple cents off from each other. Especially when the synth is playing under them. The intro is a double tracked 12 string with a shitload of compression and EQ (the raw tracks sound like SHIT). I used an actual amp for the first harmony guitars you hear in the beginning because I really wanted it to start with that feedback and wasn't getting it to kick in right away with the AxeFX. Lots of synth shit from Alchemy in the intro. When I started recording music on my own, this is the EXACT idea I had in mind for what I wanted to write.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/volatile-gentleman-sanitation-room

Off to go listen to this week's submissions then I'm gonna fuck around with the LOTW!

This is really cool how it goes from foreboding intro to heaviness - the intro gives me some Death "Void of the Soul"-vibes. This is my favorite of your songs this season.


Nice one, Rev, my favorite of yours this season. That intro is awesome and the guitars sound great (again), those chugs at the end are devastating.

I started off the week highly motivated but pulled a muscle in my mid back and it made playing guitar for any real length of time nigh impossible so this came out pretty rough/short. I'd intended to LAW again this week but oh well :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

I like the mix of the synths and the guitars - that's also some serious downtuning! :metal:


I still need to check out everyone's submissions but here's mine:

https://soundcloud.com/stevecolemusic/times-up

I had a hell of a time with this one because the guitar rhythm was more on the "and" of the beats rather than the 1/2/3/4s. I also have some latency issues I still need to sort out.

Really cool musical use of delay - did you adjust the timing of the delay so that it follows the rhythm? Great tune otherwise too, cool bluesy guitars, atmospheric stuff.

I tend to get latency issues when using delay, think my PC isn't powerful enough for it. My solution has been to either mute the track or turn the delay off, but that option might not work too well when using the delay like this.

Iron1
03-30-2020, 09:27 AM
I still need to check out everyone's submissions but here's mine:

https://soundcloud.com/stevecolemusic/times-up

I had a hell of a time with this one because the guitar rhythm was more on the "and" of the beats rather than the 1/2/3/4s. I also have some latency issues I still need to sort out.

Really dig this. I could totally run this on repeat through my headphones while I work. Good job, again!


Just in the nick of time!

Here's a sloppy LOTW. I started around 11Pm and just took a bunch of takes until 11:45 and went with the last take I did. I'm so not in shape for playing leads and my fingers are feelin' the burn now.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/lotw3

Talk about under the wire! Definitely some sweet parts in there.

scole
03-31-2020, 12:48 AM
Thanks, everyone. :yesway: The core parts came together pretty quickly but I kind of stalled towards the end, especially when I was trying to work out some latency issues.


Easily my favorite thing you've done so far. That's so chill and I love anything with delay on it, so it's an automatic win in my book. Those drums sound fucking GREAT dude. What program are you using? You've probably said it before, but I can't remember. Everything, kick snare and cymbals are all just fucking perfect. I nominate that tune for next week's LOTW track.

Thanks, man. Your mixes always sound great so I appreciate it. My drums are just EZ Drummer 2 using the basic kit of the Metal Machine Expansion park. I alos have a number of their MIDI libraries so I scour the collections for grooves/fills and then tweak them for taste.


Really cool musical use of delay - did you adjust the timing of the delay so that it follows the rhythm? Great tune otherwise too, cool bluesy guitars, atmospheric stuff.

I tend to get latency issues when using delay, think my PC isn't powerful enough for it. My solution has been to either mute the track or turn the delay off, but that option might not work too well when using the delay like this.

Just checked my file. Looks like I didn't tweak the tempo delay on the patch this time. I decreased the project tempo to 100bpm and then I eventually adjusted the the way I was playing the riff to get it to work. Originally, I was playing more pedal tone notes on the open D string but switched to playing the riff more like the intro to Play That Funky Music by White Cherry. That made it easier to finally find some drum grooves to get the ball rolling.

scole
03-31-2020, 01:04 AM
Had some really cool inspiration when I started this one, then the week sucked the life outta me, hence the title...

File this under "give me my 10 points so I can move on"...

https://soundcloud.com/iron1/lesslife-3-0-2

The switch to the chugging riff about 2/3rds of the way through was awesome!


Here's mine. Didn't come up with any good vocal melodies, but might try again at some later point,

https://soundcloud.com/user-651079288/saw-3-3

I'm not a doom metal fan but that clean guitar work is beautiful..


I'm actually pretty stoked with my submission this week. I sat in my studio earlier this week and for the first time in a while, enjoyed a little herbal recreation. Opened up Logic, started noodling and within about an hour had a good amount of the riffs in this song gathered. I organized those into the first half and for the second half I wanted to 'write' it by improvising the guitar track and then writing the drums to it after. It's a bit long, but I've already written vocal melodies for the entire second half, including the whole start/stop section. After I cleaned up my studio a couple weeks ago, I've got the Korg TR-1 rack ready to go all the time, it's got some of the base sounds that Derek Sherinian used on Falling Into Infinity and those are my favorite keyboard sounds of all time. A lot of the drums were programmed at work in my office because this one was definitely an undertaking. The only shite part of it all is that I didn't check my guitar tuning enough and as the song goes on, you can hear some slight chorusing from the strings being a couple cents off from each other. Especially when the synth is playing under them. The intro is a double tracked 12 string with a shitload of compression and EQ (the raw tracks sound like SHIT). I used an actual amp for the first harmony guitars you hear in the beginning because I really wanted it to start with that feedback and wasn't getting it to kick in right away with the AxeFX. Lots of synth shit from Alchemy in the intro. When I started recording music on my own, this is the EXACT idea I had in mind for what I wanted to write.

https://soundcloud.com/strokeface/volatile-gentleman-sanitation-room

Sounds great & I share your love for the Derek era Korg Synth sounds. The keyboard stuff on my submission this week was all part of the Triton VST. If you're a DT fan from that era, there definitely are some similarities but it's also not clone or rip-off. Still also like your use of the whammy/pitch-shifter :D


I started off the week highly motivated but pulled a muscle in my mid back and it made playing guitar for any real length of time nigh impossible so this came out pretty rough/short. I'd intended to LAW again this week but oh well :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/connor-noyes/deus-mortem

Lots happening in your riffs but it all seems to work together. I don't know how people can come up with things like this. :lol: