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Professor Squidbeard
04-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Gimme some tips. I rented an electric upright and suck at bowing. i want to use it mostly for bowing, so send me in the right direction.

Josh
04-18-2010, 08:40 PM
German-style or classical style?

eleven59
04-18-2010, 09:08 PM
German-style or classical style?

"I don't know that!"
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Professor Squidbeard
04-18-2010, 09:40 PM
German-style or classical style?

no clue, honestly, i can't even find any videos of the difference. just this one dude on youtube and all the comments on his videos say he is totally and completely wrong.

Josh
04-19-2010, 12:08 AM
What kind of bowing technique you'll learn likely will depend on what kind of bow you end up with, but here are the differences:

These are the parts of a bow (this is a French-style bow, actually a violin one, but aside from size and length is functionally identical to an upright bow):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/b/b6/20091207025255!Violin_bow_parts.jpg

French style hand position (this is the same way a cello is bowed), and the back end of the bow (the area near the 'frog') is not as tall as a German bow:

http://cdn-viper.demandvideo.com/media/569161BB-4BD3-4A76-A920-D496585E6359/jpeg/D5309B89-8AB0-4944-9A42-28CE23A8F465_3.jpg

The thumb goes between the 'pad' and the part of the frog that extends towards the far end of the bow. The rest of the fingers kind of drape downward over it to hold the bow in place.

German-style bowing:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/449543929_4ee2a8319c.jpg

This one is easier to pick up for beginners than French-style. You basically make the :metal: hand position, and the two (or three if your pinky fits) middle curled fingers go in the scooped out area of the frog.

German bow:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xulxY7JAL._SS400_.jpg

As a cellist, I'm primarily used to the French bow technique. It also allows you to use the weight of your arm to draw notes out and increase volume, whereas the German technique relies more on the side-to-side bowing motion for dynamic control.

Josh
04-19-2010, 12:38 AM
Here are some pics of me holding a cello bow French-style:

Hand position:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulLMokPCI/AAAAAAAABGg/ddX8Fsn8DNo/s800/IMG_3276.jpg

Crappy flash shot of the palm side:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulLYce9UI/AAAAAAAABGk/XKsqODSY8Lc/s800/IMG_3271.jpg

Slightly-blurry unflashed shot of the same angle:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulLtLvfxI/AAAAAAAABGo/rMms0UbjSEo/s800/IMG_3272.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulL-HjCeI/AAAAAAAABGs/NNuvp-vpa90/s800/IMG_3273.jpg

Viewed from below:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulMLvADvI/AAAAAAAABGw/4EB8f2DadZk/s576/IMG_3274.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulMlxJlNI/AAAAAAAABG4/aQkJKY1gL5U/s800/IMG_3275.jpg

Chris
04-19-2010, 01:41 PM
My word sir, clean your room! :squint:

Josh
04-19-2010, 02:22 PM
My word sir, clean your room! :squint:

Working on it. Everything is everywhere because I'm in the process of getting 10 years of shit sorted to either be packed, sold, stored, or donated, and I've been pulling fairly long hours of work as that has to be done by the end of the month as well.

It's actually not as bad as it looks, except for that side that you can see in the picture. :lol:

stealthtastic
06-13-2010, 08:07 AM
So many wires on the damn floor :noplease:

metalcunt
06-13-2010, 09:37 AM
:lol:@socks

The Dark Wolf
06-13-2010, 11:53 AM
My word sir, clean your room! :squint:

:lol: Wow, great minds think alike. I was totally gonna comment about the HORRIBLE FUCKING MESS, and I thought, "I bet Quig already commented on it." and sure as shit, you did.

At least we're predictable in our finickiness. http://www.smileystar.com/smileys/msn-animal-smileys/cleaning%20cat.gif

eleven59
06-13-2010, 12:21 PM
I like the rainbow pillowcase :yesway:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xnM7dIgrRv0/S8ulMlxJlNI/AAAAAAAABG4/aQkJKY1gL5U/s800/IMG_3275.jpg

Josh
06-14-2010, 04:15 AM
Fuck you all :lol:

That's what happens when you are working from home and sorting out 10 years of accumulated stuff in preparation for a move. Normally I'm pretty OCD about that.

jacksonplayer
06-14-2010, 09:45 PM
Most jazz bassists I've seen use French-style bowing on their arco sections, for what that's worth.

I'm not wading into the debate over Josh's housekeeping, since I'm the world's worst at that. :lol:

Batch Masterson
06-15-2010, 01:13 AM
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/rgb500/Bassbow--43751.jpg