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shannon
09-23-2010, 10:55 PM
I'm thinking of doing the following to my Sherman-restored Ibanez UV777GR.

1. adding a set of Schaller mini-locking tuners (to facilitate quicker string changes)
2. refretting with small fret wire (Dingwall uses banjo & mandolin frets claiming it's the ultimate in intonation & overall slick feel. I really dug the feel of the Dingwall basses I tried recently).

Talk me in or out of it.

Soopahmahn
09-23-2010, 11:01 PM
Do eet!

My 8-string had vintage-sized fretwire and it was sweet.

Leon
09-23-2010, 11:03 PM
Should be fine :yesway:

Elysian
09-23-2010, 11:11 PM
I hate vintage style fretwire on guitar myself... My fingers wind up all over the board, makes vibrato lame.

shannon
09-23-2010, 11:14 PM
makes vibrato lame.

Explain....

Elysian
09-23-2010, 11:18 PM
Explain....

Maybe I just don't have a light enough touch, but my fingers wind up rubbing on the fretboard, making vibrato tougher. I also have issues with chording on thicker gauge strings, it's easier for me with jumbo fretwire. I even went so far as to go jumbo fretwire on my acoustic, it's so much more comfortable to play on, to me.

darren
09-23-2010, 11:20 PM
I think if you've got a light touch, smaller fretwire definitely has intonation advantages. I don't mind my fingers contacting the wood... it also helps me to stop pressing notes sharp by playing too heavy.

I personally prefer medium-tall fretwire for that reason. I find that jumbo frets make me feel like i'm trying to run up stairs that are like 1" taller than normal stairs.

As for the tuners, i say go for it. After all, it is a "restored" instrument, so it's not like it has any "original" value in it from a collector's standpoint.

Chris
09-24-2010, 12:06 AM
Sperzels: :yesway:
Fretwire: Only if you have little girl hands. :shannon:

‹berschall
09-24-2010, 12:14 AM
:agreed: Chris is wise.

Josh
09-24-2010, 02:45 AM
I love the smaller fretwire on basses, but for vibrato and bends (and general playing) I have problems "gripping" the strings with smaller fretwire since the string sits so much closer to the bord.

darren
09-24-2010, 03:20 AM
Fretwire: Only if you have little girl hands. :shannon:

Meh. Huge fretwire gets nasty big flat crowns after a while, totally buggering your intonation. Narrower frets keep things within a certain tolerance.

Chris
09-24-2010, 03:25 AM
?

Max
09-24-2010, 04:08 AM
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Fretwire: Only if you have little girl hands. :shannon:

Meh. Huge fretwire gets nasty big flat crowns after a while, totally buggering your intonation. Narrower frets keep things within a certain tolerance.

:idea: get a recrown!

Josh
09-24-2010, 04:16 AM
Basically, do you like the idea of shredding on a fretless guitar? Mini-frets will give you that feel without the intonation issues.

As a Dingwall owner, I love the small frets on my basses. On my guitars? Hell no.

shannon
09-24-2010, 04:31 PM
Hmm....while I can see the advantage of small frets on bass, you guys bring up a good point about the feel on guitar. Never thought about the "fingers digging into the fretboard" part. Fuck it, I'm going with 6000s! :lol:

As for locking tuners, I'm doing it. ;)

noodles
09-24-2010, 05:46 PM
Meh. Huge fretwire gets nasty big flat crowns after a while, totally buggering your intonation. Narrower frets keep things within a certain tolerance.

Stainless steel frets practically last forever. :yesway:

noodles
09-24-2010, 05:46 PM
As for locking tuners, I'm doing it. ;)

Absolutely no reason not to. Especially if you go with Schallers, which are a direct retrofit.

Vegetta
09-24-2010, 08:46 PM
small fretwire..... :barf:

Oogadee Boogadee
10-04-2010, 01:19 PM
can you get it plekked to a new wire profile? thus, utilizing the existing wire while zeroing out intonation problems? Maybe then you can ask for skinny.. or shorter... or both...

Chris
10-04-2010, 01:21 PM
can you get it plekked to a new wire profile? thus, utilizing the existing wire while zeroing out intonation problems? Maybe then you can ask for skinny.. or shorter... or both...

Careful. The Irish asked for that very same thing once. :(

Jeff
10-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Don't be a sissy. Scallop the fretboard. :D

shannon
10-04-2010, 03:26 PM
Scalloped? HELL NO. I'm not jacking up that glorious fretboard. :nono:

Jeff
10-04-2010, 07:57 PM
Scalloped? HELL NO. I'm not jacking up that glorious fretboard. :nono:

I'm just kidding. :D I wouldn't do it either, though I did play an S540-7 with scalloped board, and it was actually a lot of fun. The UVGR is far too valuable though to do something like that.

Richard
10-07-2010, 12:59 AM
I don't see a problem with switching out your tuners. Are your frets worn down?