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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    even with unlimited data and Apple Music...
    No. No spotify, no apple music. Buy your albums people. If you listen to this album once in a streaming service the band gets a fraction of a hundredth of a cent. Spend the $10 at least on the MP3 album and show the artist their life's work matters to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beneharris View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Really? I enjoyed "A Wits End." I thought it was a fairly good ballad/rock song.
    It was only after 1 listen, but I felt for the nearly 10 minutes it lasted not much happened though I'm sure that I'm missing something.

    I see you didn't defend Room 137 <img src="https://www.metalguitarist.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" />
    I let it pass for now. I thought it was perfect. Hahaha. Don't know how anyone could not like that one. Sounds like "Awake."

    Quote Originally Posted by scole View Post
    I listened to the various tracks that popped online Friday night. I'm still just "meh". I don't remember a single riff that gave me the same feels as anything from the first 6 albums. Mostly, his riffing now sounds like exercises from his Rock Discipline instructional video. The beginning of At Wits End kind of has some distinction. I'm too lazy to find it again but there was one song where I felt Mangini's playing was distracting rather than contributing to the song. Probably just have to accept the fact that their best days are behind them..
    That I can say is true. There are not many riffs that really grab you to an extent. The slow riff in S2N might be the best one or the riff in Room 137.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Well I’ll be damned; this album is really quite good. And what the hell happened with S2N? Did Jordan and John accidentally give Myung the spotlight? I didn’t think their egos could handle it! Definitely my favorite track.

    The Astonishing was so astonishingly bad that even with unlimited data and Apple Music, I still felt robbed. This is definitely worlds better.
    As a concept album fan I concur with all of that. However, "The Astonishing" live was much better than the album. I don't even listen to that album. But at least Petrucci took everything into consideration.


    He said they all went away locked themselves in a house studio and wrote the album together. I thoroughly believe that is why this album is better than anything they have written in a while.

    John Myung kill it's on this album with his tone. That intro to S2N is glorious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    even with unlimited data and Apple Music...
    No. No spotify, no apple music. Buy your albums people. If you listen to this album once in a streaming service the band gets a fraction of a hundredth of a cent. Spend the $10 at least on the MP3 album and show the artist their life's work matters to you.
    totally disagree. Had I bought The Astonishing, I’d have been fucking pissed. I buy albums of bands I like and enjoy most of the album, but I’ve blown enough money over the last three decades on shit albums with one good track that I like listening to it on Apple Music first to make sure it’s good. I own every PT, Steven Wilson, Karnivool, Dead Letter Circus, Big Wreck, etc etc album. But I listen to it first on Apple Music.
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    Listened to Room 137 and have S2N going now - the first didn't really wow me, and again the mix sounds kinda audibly smashed. Rhythm tone and riff is cool, lead tone here sounds... Eh, I'm really not a fan. Sort of a dry grainy quality to it. The phaser on the vocals gets old fast.

    Second tune - reminds me of Images and Words, rather a lot, actually. I'm liking the composition a bit more, love the riff that comes in just before 5 minutes, but good lord the audible ducking in the limiting is killing me and making it hard to listen to this.

    Fuck, seriously... Can this whole volume wars thing just end so I can go back to enjoying music, and not comnstantly focusing on how it feels like all the air is sucked out of the room every time someone hits a snare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    No. No spotify, no apple music. Buy your albums people. If you listen to this album once in a streaming service the band gets a fraction of a hundredth of a cent. Spend the $10 at least on the MP3 album and show the artist their life's work matters to you.
    99.99% of the time I would agree with this. The Astonishing, though...

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    I agree with the sentiments that this album is great. The best Mangini era DT and what should've came after A Dramatic Turn Of Events. Petrucci's tone is awesome, Rudess hasn't shown this much restraint since Train Of Though, and the songwriting is much better than the last 2 albums. And yeah, Viper King is my favorite of the lot. It's not often metal bands write a boogie rhythm song, let alone DT doing it, but it's done so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    totally disagree. Had I bought The Astonishing, Iíd have been fucking pissed. I buy albums of bands I like and enjoy most of the album, but Iíve blown enough money over the last three decades on shit albums with one good track that I like listening to it on Apple Music first to make sure itís good. I own every PT, Steven Wilson, Karnivool, Dead Letter Circus, Big Wreck, etc etc album. But I listen to it first on Apple Music.
    This. There are very few artists/bands Iíd buy an album from on day 1 without hearing anything and trust Iíll enjoy it. And Iíd rather give them a fraction of a cent on Spotify than $0 on some random personís YouTube upload.

    Long story short, I donít reward anyone with my money if Iím not confident itís deserved. Same reason I almost never see movies in the theatre anymore: if I hate the movie, they still have my money, and think it was a success. Iíd rather give them a statistic on Netflix, including a thumbs down.

    But if Iím excited about a movie, Iíll see it in the theatre. And if I love an album, I buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven59 View Post
    This. There are very few artists/bands I’d buy an album from on day 1 without hearing anything and trust I’ll enjoy it. And I’d rather give them a fraction of a cent on Spotify than $0 on some random person’s YouTube upload.

    Long story short, I don’t reward anyone with my money if I’m not confident it’s deserved.
    Totally!

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