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  1. #9


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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Mr. Test View Post
    Eh, it's not that cut and dry really. As an old guy, I am required to have nothing but ire for young people so this is hard for me to admit.... But back in the day, I didn't really give a fuck about my recorded tone and neither did any of my musician buddies that we all swapped demo tapes with. Nobody mimed, nobody spent 50 hours editing video for every 50 minutes spent recording... Shit like that.

    Nowadays, every single company is targeting kids saying "buy our shit and you will sound just like your idols". Then those same idols, who are already great producers, put out a youtube video saying "all I did was put this into reaper and voila! Buy my plugin pack and you will too!". The bar is so high with these people and it's all so disingenuous. These guys who say "oh I just added a little EQ" either added a fucking TON of EQ or they already have fantastic ears in the first place. If I'm a kid and I save my pennies for a Kemper and a Superior Drummer setup, I'm going to be crushed when I buy my Blub kemper pack and my Blub drum pack and find out that it's not as simple as just playing and hitting record.

    I'm a grown man and I overanalyze the shit out of anything I post on here before I share it. I can't imagine how extra stressful that has to be for kids who give a fuck about what their peers think. How do you share your sick new jam that you're super proud of when the guy above you just posted something that sounds like it's straight off of Andy Sneap's desk, with a comment that says "oh I just banged this out in 5 minutes"?

    If I had more time I'd start a youtube channel where I just lay down straight unedited tracks with all of these producer presets and show people what they actually sound like if you aren't already a fantastic engineer.
    Yeah its not enough to be a good player anymore. you have to be a good player and a good producer oh and a bit of a drummer and Keyboard player oh and a video editor.

    I kinda miss the days when i would just record shit in my shitty fostex 4 track and all was fine. Now i spend entirely too much time wondering if I should reduce my gain by .1 while being overwhelmed with all of the options in my daw.

    This is not a case of being to old or too dumb to use the software. I use a ton of coding and design software daily but man nothing in any of the daws I have tried has really clicked with me.

    I really have recently just really started trying to actually record some stuff and its a painstakingly slow process. And i don't even care about video really at this point.

    I am still trying to get a workflow that sounds good, is easy to use and will let me just put together some decent sounding demos that I can build upon as skills improve.
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  3. #10


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    Heh. He does have a bunch of cool shit, but all he really needs is the CAE and the Fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdave View Post
    To add to Chris' old man rant..... The reasons I gave up doing my project years ago. Everyone is a producer/critic the last 15 or so years, and unless the hand of God deemed it perfection the coments you get are not from music fans they are mostly other bedroom artists saying what they'd do different. Asking for a critique is different than needless feedback. There is no art in that scenario. The old way of the music buisness had lots of drawbacks but the good part of having someone to tell you something sucked was a good thing some times and having the money to get you through a few projects so you could develope. In a bedroom studio there usually isnt there to tell you your super-epic sweepfest grawler opera is kinda shitty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegetta View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Mr. Test View Post
    Eh, it's not that cut and dry really. As an old guy, I am required to have nothing but ire for young people so this is hard for me to admit.... But back in the day, I didn't really give a fuck about my recorded tone and neither did any of my musician buddies that we all swapped demo tapes with. Nobody mimed, nobody spent 50 hours editing video for every 50 minutes spent recording... Shit like that.

    Nowadays, every single company is targeting kids saying "buy our shit and you will sound just like your idols". Then those same idols, who are already great producers, put out a youtube video saying "all I did was put this into reaper and voila! Buy my plugin pack and you will too!". The bar is so high with these people and it's all so disingenuous. These guys who say "oh I just added a little EQ" either added a fucking TON of EQ or they already have fantastic ears in the first place. If I'm a kid and I save my pennies for a Kemper and a Superior Drummer setup, I'm going to be crushed when I buy my Blub kemper pack and my Blub drum pack and find out that it's not as simple as just playing and hitting record.

    I'm a grown man and I overanalyze the shit out of anything I post on here before I share it. I can't imagine how extra stressful that has to be for kids who give a fuck about what their peers think. How do you share your sick new jam that you're super proud of when the guy above you just posted something that sounds like it's straight off of Andy Sneap's desk, with a comment that says "oh I just banged this out in 5 minutes"?

    If I had more time I'd start a youtube channel where I just lay down straight unedited tracks with all of these producer presets and show people what they actually sound like if you aren't already a fantastic engineer. <img src="https://www.metalguitarist.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" />
    Yeah its not enough to be a good player anymore. you have to be a good player and a good producer oh and a bit of a drummer and Keyboard player oh and a video editor.

    I kinda miss the days when i would just record shit in my shitty fostex 4 track and all was fine. Now i spend entirely too much time wondering if I should reduce my gain by .1 while being overwhelmed with all of the options in my daw.

    This is not a case of being to old or too dumb to use the software. I use a ton of coding and design software daily but man nothing in any of the daws I have tried has really clicked with me.

    I really have recently just really started trying to actually record some stuff and its a painstakingly slow process. And i don't even care about video really at this point.

    I am still trying to get a workflow that sounds good, is easy to use and will let me just put together some decent sounding demos that I can build upon as skills improve.
    So glad I don't care what people on the Internet think about something that has nothing to do with them.
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  6. #12


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    Yeah he's a really cool guy too. He posts on the kemper forum or used to. No one really goes there anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toe-Knee View Post
    So glad I don't care what people on the Internet think about something that has nothing to do with them.
    I dont give two shits what people think, its just a matter of now I do it for me. I play guitar for me now and dont waste my time doing all that other stuff. Its a freedom that many people these days dont enjoy enough. When I play I dont sit and do covers, I create riffs, I used to let friends play my rig with one rule...no cover songs, that cuts way down on them messing with my stuff. Not fussing over something I dont enjoy has been a blessing.
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    Best way to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toe-Knee View Post
    So glad I don't care what people on the Internet think about something that has nothing to do with them.
    Agreed, but also much easier said than done as an adult. Everything matters to you when you're young, it's just life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Mr. Test View Post
    Agreed, but also much easier said than done as an adult. Everything matters to you when you're young, it's just life.
    If I had a dollar for every time I thought " if I only knew then what I know now" Id make Bill Gates seem poor.

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