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    What's more important speaker or cabinet?

    I know I've posted some stuff from Kohle before, but I absolutely love his channel. This is a Marshall V30 vs Mesa V30 comparison, but also switching the speakers between cabs to find out whether it's the enclosure or the speaker that's really making the difference.


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    I prefered the Marshall with the Mesa V30's at least in isolation, in the mix it depended kind of on the riff and style. Interesting that there's such a difference between the different V30's. Could it be that as he says he's been using the Mesa all the time and not using the Marshall much, that that's affected the speaker? I've heard people say they don't come alive until after x hours of playing.

    Was it also that Mesa had a stockpile of English Celestions, while the Marshall is a Chinese one? You'd still think that Celestion would make sure they sound about the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    I prefered the Marshall with the Mesa V30's at least in isolation, in the mix it depended kind of on the riff and style. Interesting that there's such a difference between the different V30's. Could it be that as he says he's been using the Mesa all the time and not using the Marshall much, that that's affected the speaker? I've heard people say they don't come alive until after x hours of playing.

    Was it also that Mesa had a stockpile of English Celestions, while the Marshall is a Chinese one? You'd still think that Celestion would make sure they sound about the same...
    Funnily he already addressed speaker break-in on another video. The difference in the speakers themselves was expected, Mesa has their own 'voicing' for the V30 which Celstion make exclusively for them, I've never heard any details of what exactly the difference is though. This video was really to figure out how much of that voicing difference is from the speaker construction vs the cabinet construction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozek View Post
    Funnily he already addressed speaker break-in on another video. The difference in the speakers themselves was expected, Mesa has their own 'voicing' for the V30 which Celstion make exclusively for them, I've never heard any details of what exactly the difference is though. This video was really to figure out how much of that voicing difference is from the speaker construction vs the cabinet construction.

    Yeah, the differences there were certainly subtle. I heard a small difference but not a huge amount, not sure if before or after was better either.

    It's pretty weird from move from Celestion though - if one V30 sounds like shit and another sounds great, people who have tried the shitty one might not get a Celestion equipped cab at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    It's pretty weird from move from Celestion though - if one V30 sounds like shit and another sounds great, people who have tried the shitty one might not get a Celestion equipped cab at all.
    As far as I've understood it (and this is hearsay built up over years of information from forums), there is the original V30 made in England, the exclusive Mesa voiced version also made in England, and then the Chinese manufactured version. Both the English versions sound 'good but different' subjectively, the Chinese version not so much. I imagine there's a price point here that manufacturers can consider in their pricing model vs cusomer satisfaction.

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    I like this guy because he demonstrates the differences in stuff that actually matters, or rather he experiments to see if it matters or not.

    I'll watch the video later but by all reports the Mesa V30 is darker and less honky than the standard. People get confused and say it's a "British" V30 in the Mesa and a "Chinese" V30 in other things. That's wrong. There are British made V30's and Chinese made V30's, but the Mesa V30 really is something else entirely.

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