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  1. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Shows you how often I've played the full 90w Mark V! That's the same setup as the 3 channel rectifiers. I've found on those amps, I get better tone to run the preamp master lower and the global output higher. More headroom from the power tubes, better bass response, etc.
    That's why I love the fuck out of the Captor with mine. I run it at 90W now with the output way up and it's still bedroom volume with all the balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Shows you how often I've played the full 90w Mark V! That's the same setup as the 3 channel rectifiers. I've found on those amps, I get better tone to run the preamp master lower and the global output higher. More headroom from the power tubes, better bass response, etc.
    Considering how often you used to tell me the JP2C was so much better than the V, I think you should go back and spend some more time with one.

    So, some Mesas, absolutely - it's not every single model, but I've definitely noticed that the channel volume can really change the way the preamp overdrives in some models (or, sometimes, some channels). My old Rectoverb, for example, had a VERY different feel if I ran the channel low and the output high, or vice versa. For me, channel low was the sweet spot, but I have no doubt others prefer the reverse.

    On the Mark... Ch2 responds this way to a degree, in that less there's a change in character (my RoV would be smoother with the channel low, crunchier with it high) than there was a noticable change in the amount of gain available as the channel volume came up. Ch 2 Brit on my Roadster responded like this as well. Ch3, though... I haven't really noticed a perceptible change in the way the amp sounds or feels with the channel volume in any "normal" range (I don't know if I've ever tried running it wide open, must have at some point, though), and at any rate I'm very happy with the sound and feel of the amp with the channel volume in the middle of its throw.

    Now, "Bright," on the other hand, absolutely boosts the gain a small but perceptible amount. Go figure.
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  4. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Shows you how often I've played the full 90w Mark V! That's the same setup as the 3 channel rectifiers. I've found on those amps, I get better tone to run the preamp master lower and the global output higher. More headroom from the power tubes, better bass response, etc.
    Considering how often you used to tell me the JP2C was so much better than the V, I think you should go back and spend some more time with one. <img src="https://www.metalguitarist.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Laugh" class="inlineimg" />
    Why would I spend time on an inferior amp?

    In all seriousness I don't remember ever disrespecting the V, if anything it was in jest. I think the Mark V is a great amp, I just wish they didn't put all the best sounds on the same channel and make them impossible to switch between via footpedal or MIDI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Why would I spend time on an inferior amp?

    In all seriousness I don't remember ever disrespecting the V, if anything it was in jest. I think the Mark V is a great amp, I just wish they didn't put all the best sounds on the same channel and make them impossible to switch between via footpedal or MIDI.
    Are IIC+ and MKIV mode on separate channels on the JP2C?

    Edit: Just RTFM'd. So IIC+ is Ch2, but Ch3 is a new-ish thing? Petrucci's lead tone has been icepick city for a while now so I don't really want "his" lead on it's own channel. (I've pulled his pickups out of several guitars now because the CrunchLab/Liquifire set is hot garbage.)

    If it's actually a MKIV on Ch3 on that thing I might have to grab one. If it's more like the "extreme" setting on the MKV, I'll pass.

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    It's got more gain and is a little heavier, but less compressed. It's cool for sure. Petrucci likes yellow mode for rhythm, but I think it kills for leads, very smooth. Most metal guys I've talked with that have one prefer red channel for rhythm, as do I, but it's not terribly different. Maybe the difference between Iic and IV mode on the V, but the gap is narrower. If that makes sense.

    So yeah they're different enough that I can set them to be very different (EQ/Push-pull pots, Shred mode, etc.). That's the perk of a 3 channel amplifier to me where you have two heavier channels. It's why I like the 3 channel rectifiers too. I can set one with a more scooped sound and less gain, but more cutting for rhythm, and I can have a smoother sound with more gain for lead. The Mark V is exceptional and I take nothing away from it, I might even own one some day, but yeah I dig having two heavy sounds available for sure.

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    Huh. I wish it wasn't quite so expensive. All I really want is IIC+ and MKIV mode on two different channels. It'd be more cost effective for what I actually want to just buy a second Mark V.

    Definitely curious to try one out once the goddamn plague ends.

  9. #23


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    Yeah it would be right up your alley then. It's great for pretty much exactly that kind of application.

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    One day I’ll own a Mark again, be it the JP2C or (God forbid they make one) a 50w Mark.

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