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    Agreed, they are just the standard series, I own a 2005 standard horizon II and itsca great guitar, my first really nice guitar. I've considered a few e-IIs since then but the logo is a real turn off. The reality is that it's just ESP making sure that if you want ESP on the headstock you need to put up 3.5k minimum.

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    That guitar but with an ESP logo? Hmmmm, think I might have seen one somewhere...........

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    I have no idea what ESP is doing from a marketing perspective.

    I will say, judging by the last few I've played, that the LTDs from Indonesia have passed the Korean ones. I played the new Buz-7 (Indonesian) that was every bit as good as the E-II I played a few minutes later, and maybe just a touch below the ESP I played after that - but it was close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I have no idea what ESP is doing from a marketing perspective.

    I will say, judging by the last few I've played, that the LTDs from Indonesia have passed the Korean ones. I played the new Buz-7 (Indonesian) that was every bit as good as the E-II I played a few minutes later, and maybe just a touch below the ESP I played after that - but it was close.
    I JUST bought a new (old) guitar, but also have SG hunger from going off on recent a psychedelic/stoner/sludge binge (but I won't touch a post early '80s Gibson SG), and this looks here looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick at that price point: https://www.espguitars.com/products/...lack-metal-2nd Baritone scale and everything, so I don't smash my hand into the headstock as it's been forever since I played any child-sized guitars. Satin neck too. ESP are on it, IMO.
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    Venator, all of the Japanese sig series guitars are custom shop builds so there is no wonder why all the ones you played are better. Those are all like $5000 guitars.

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    I own an E-II V. It doesn't bother me too much, because I know it's an ESP. Now if they would have made the V-II in white in any other series except E-II or the 50-series LTD, that would be cool.
    C'mon son.

    Hellevate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozek View Post
    That guitar but with an ESP logo? Hmmmm, think I might have seen one somewhere...........


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    People were starting to import ESP standard guitars into Japan so ESP forced name change since people expected custom shop quality from "ESP" guitars. That's about all there is to it lol.

    I've seen a lot thrown around about how the standard series are made in LTD factory and then finished at the ESP factory but who knows if that has any truth to it or not. Either way how a guitar is finished (paint, binding, frets, etc.) is pretty much the only difference between a high end and low end guitar anyway so really it doesn't matter much where the body blank was made on a CNC. Theoretically high end ones have "selected tone woods" but we've all played 4000 dollar guitars that sounded like complete shit so this is not really that valid.

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