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  1. #9


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    Ok so found a few things for you.

    First up this link seems to have way more info about treble bleeds than I have time to read right now
    https://axegrinderz-guitar-tone-prod...-treble-bleeds

    Next, I have use the Fender "Tone Saver" thing in a couple of my strats to good effect. It is a resistor and cap wrapped in a fancy cover:
    https://shop.fender.com/en-US/parts/...706416049.html

    If I recall correctly the total values are similar to what you find in American Pro Strats:


    Then, there is the Ibanez Treble bleed. They use a straight 330pf (Pico Farad) cap with a 500kB pot. I believe this is because just the cap changes the taper of the pot some so they use a B taper pot which is linear instead of the normal A taper which is a logarithmic taper also called an audio taper.


    Hope this helps!

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    Awesome, thanks mate. Last time i tried the treble bleed i think i copied stewmacs values. BUt i've since read there more ways to skin that cat. I'll read through this a bit later cheers!

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    Just had a thought that will solve my tone issues. No load pots. If i use one of those with 50's wiring i can have the brightness i prefer when lowering the vol (with tone pot maxed). And then if i lower the tone that will use the 50's wiring (when lowering the vol).

    Time to pull apart a pot!

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    This does seem like a pretty good idea for more jazzy, classic rock kind of stuff. For the past 15+ plus years, I mainly just play METAL, so I don't even bother with a tone knob for the most part. Neither of the last two guitars I bought have tone knobs, though some of the guitars I've been eying lately do have them. I owned a Gibson Les Paul Studio from about 2002 to 2012 that I always played with both volume and tone at 10 whenever with a band, but I'd still mess with values less than 10 by myself and I thought a Gibson Les Paul with the neck pickup tone at 2-5 sounded pretty nice for jazzy leads or more classic rock low to mid gain leads, and from the videos I've seen of 50s wiring, it's also nice and in a different kind of way.

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    Same metal player for 20+ yrs, then i started building guitars pedals 2yrs back. First pedal i built was a fuzz face, was shocked for two reasons. 1st) When i rolled off the vol on the guitar the distortion turned to crystal clean sounds 2nd) the texture of the FF distortion was unlike anything id heard before. So i built another pedal.. and another, ect.. now ive got 18 different drive/fuzz pedals and it has totally changed the way i play. I now use edge of breakup lead tones and then i kick on a fuzz to get crazy wailing distortion.

    After that break though i decided to build a telecaster. So i could get a different sound from my normal hot humbucker guitars, ive heard singlcoils are more touch sensitive to playing styles, and yes they are. I've now stared playing without a pick, the tele has become my number one player. And this yr a built 2 guitars one Jazzmaster with p90's and a superstart which will get a set of Paf's. For even more tonal options.

    Still consider myself a metalhead/player and is still crank the AFX2 with the savage amp model and get my thrash on but man its so much fun stacking drives/fuzzes with a low output pickup. There is a whole other world of tones/texture that i wasnt aware of playing through a high gain amps.

    But with the singlecoils and P90-'s you really do need to consider having a tone knob, they are just to bright otherwise, that lead me to the 50's wiring.

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    Wiring doesn’t matter when you’re on ten all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles View Post
    Wiring doesn’t matter when you’re on ten all the time.
    That's also why there are some guitars with not just no tone knobs, but no volume knobs either. They usually just have a killswitch button, so the volume options are either 0 or 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spilla View Post
    Wall of text

    Shite, just reread that and i think i've just described me turning into a middle aged dadrocker (no kids though). The day that music died?!

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