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    John Petrucci On The Backs of Angels tone with a Mark V:25 and impulses

    A few days ago, I got the bug to try to see if I could get close to John Petrucci's tone in a stem I found on YouTube for On The Backs of Angels. The tone in that stem is really similar to the awesome Crunch channel tone Petrucci gets in the Proto Playthrough video, so I used the settings Mesa have put up on their page about that video (look through the comments on that page lol).

    I decided I may as well learn the song and give it a go, see how close I could get to it, and I think I managed to get pretty close. So I found the stems for all the other parts (bass, vocals, drums and keys) and had at a cover of it. Figured I may as well have a shot at getting the lead tone, as well, although I didn't follow the lead settings on the Mesa site. I used my own, but they're pretty darn similar, anyway.



    Here's the rhythm guitar on its own.



    Here's Petrucci's guitar stem.



    They're by no means identical, but they're similar enough that if I don't compare and contrast them, and go in on my recording without listening to the original or that stem beforehand or during, I don't really notice the guitar sound is different, besides my playing not being Petrucci's, obviously! I didn't really think I had much of an ear for this sort of thing, so, while the results might not be so good, it seems good for what I know/can do.

    When listening to the stem, I noticed he adds in a third guitar track on parts he wants to emphasise, like on the last beat or two of the chorus, or on some of the heavier bits. But I was feeling a bit lazy, so I just kept mine to two tracks throughout.

    And just for shits and shats, here's the lead tone. Go easy, I only learned it last night and this is one take.



    My set up is Mesa Mark V:25 into a Palmer PDI-03, and that sends the unfiltered amp's speaker out into Cubase, where I applied two impulse files. They're both Redwirez, from the Mesa V30 set.

    Here's the settings from the Mesa page:


    Here are the impulses I used:


    I used a high and low pass at 12khz and 88hz.

    Here's the lead amp settings:


    And here are the impulses for the leads:


    I figured that might be useful as a starting point for some of you guys with a similar set up to me and who also went loppy for that video's tone. And, if any of you guys can be bothered, I'd be really curious to hear if you can get similar results using the same files and settings I did, but I appreciate you might not really care enough to want to try.

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    Can't wait to check this out when I get home tonight.

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    Sounds pretty good.


    The original Pettucci stem seems to have a fair bit more presence and sparkle on the high end but then I'm listening on my tablet.
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    EDIT: Just listened again....fucking awesome tone and playing Lee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM555 View Post
    Sounds pretty good.


    The original Pettucci stem seems to have a fair bit more presence and sparkle on the high end but then I'm listening on my tablet.
    I think that's about right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flexkill View Post
    EDIT: Just listened again....fucking awesome tone and playing Lee.
    Thanks, dude.

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    I feel the lack of community participation in this thread very disturbing. This is one of the best things posted here, why aren't people licking your balls with worship right now?

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