Is it still pulling too much on the springs? What is it not doing?
13-56, Floyd Rose, drop C - how!?!
I cannot for the life of me get this Randy Rhoads Jackson V tuned to drop C# with 13-56s on this god forsaken Floyd Rose bridge - Can someone please help me do this.
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It never quite gets to perfect pitch. Every fine adjustment moves something out of tune a little bit somewhere else. I want to setup this guitar right, like intonation and truss rod and get some low action with some heavy heavy strings. Just to screw around on. I have an amp that can really handle it! but its never in tune.
I'm assuming you already know the basics of getting the Floyd to sit balanced against string tension. If it's hard to get it to settle your springs may be worn out, have you tried replacing them?
How new are the strings? If they aren't stretched out yet that could be part of your problem.
You mention Drop C in the title and Drop C# in the text, so assuming Drop C# you are going to want to add a spring.I cannot for the life of me get this Randy Rhoads Jackson V tuned to drop C# with 13-56s on this god forsaken Floyd Rose bridge - Can someone please help me do this.
Assuming you are tuning Eb and dropping the lowest string ("Drop C#", mentioned in the text) that is a really heavy gauge of string to use for that tuning. Or for Drop C for that matter. The low string isn't too heavy or anything, but most people wouldn't use .13s for Eb or D. I use heavier strings than the majority of people, and I wouldn't use a .13 top for Eb or D. 11 works for both. I don't know what the gauging on the rest of the set is, but generally speaking, a set with a 13 for the lowest string is for tuning below B on a 6 string.
If you absolutely want to stick with the set, you are going to either screw the trem claw down until it levels out, add a spring until it levels out, or do both.
If you have a lower quality trem, I would also buy a device to make the guitar dive only, which is generally a more stable option for cases like yours. I might use a 13 set if I was doing A or B tuning on a 6 string with a floyd, but it's less than optimal for a floating setup in the tuning you mention. Doing any trem work with that guage at that tuning; flutters, pull ups, dives, etc. wouldn't be a desirable feel.
Alternately, tune lower. You can easily do baritone tuning with that set.
The guitar is very old and the springs could be worn out. The strings are very old as well. I understand the floyd should be flat at tension. Perhaps 13-56 is too thick for what im trying to do. I'm trying to get the sound of the band MGLA. Thanks for the help guys. Maybe 12s and c# with new springs will be a better start. Its a cheapo Jackson floyd rose btw. Just trying to screw around and have fun.
I never noticed the # but aye, if that's the case all of the above, If it's drop c# get a set of daddario 11 to 56
A few things.
1. Get new heavy springs, they are cheap. Heavy Duty Silent Springs - RED - (3) Heavy Duty Noiseless Guitar Springs [FU-HD-NS-RD] - $19.95 : FU-TONE.COM, OFFICIAL BIG BLOCK PERFORMANCE UPGRADES FOR YOUR GUITAR!
2. Get something like a trem setter to provide you with some help maintaining a o positionre, there are many of these. I like these simple ones since they are easy to install and let you pull back on the bar still.
https://www.ebay.com/p/BACKBOX-Gold...-Etc-TM060/1452144386?iid=121794906902&chn=ps
one I did before...heavy springs and stopper with brass block......
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3. On a fully floating guitar like that in C# consider using lighter strings...like the rest of the world. 10-52 or so in that tuning and scale length is plenty heavy.
4. Or, take it to a tech.
1. Get new heavy springs, they are cheap. Heavy Duty Silent Springs - RED - (3) Heavy Duty Noiseless Guitar Springs [FU-HD-NS-RD] - $19.95 : FU-TONE.COM, OFFICIAL BIG BLOCK PERFORMANCE UPGRADES FOR YOUR GUITAR!
2. Get something like a trem setter to provide you with some help maintaining a o positionre, there are many of these. I like these simple ones since they are easy to install and let you pull back on the bar still.
https://www.ebay.com/p/BACKBOX-Gold...-Etc-TM060/1452144386?iid=121794906902&chn=ps
one I did before...heavy springs and stopper with brass block......
3. On a fully floating guitar like that in C# consider using lighter strings...like the rest of the world. 10-52 or so in that tuning and scale length is plenty heavy.
4. Or, take it to a tech.
The red springs dave suggested are great, I stuck them on my Jackson and they do certainly pull a lot more. Generally fewer springs = less stiff and more floaty. You can add all 5 springs if you want to counter te tension but it'll make the floyd really hard to use if you use it for actual whammy stuff.
Thanks Boys! I went with daddario 11-56, A pack of 5 springs to screw around with and a tremolo block. We will see!
To be pedantic mgla do not play in drop tuning. It's either d, c or c# standard depending on what album
.13’s for drop C is too much tension. I use .10-.52’s for drop C on 25.5 guitars.
It's subjective. I use a low .59 for B on 27" guitars. And that's a LOT more tension than .52 for C on 25.5" guitars (1.5" longer scale, only one half-step lower tuning, and .07 thicker gauge)..13's for drop C is too much tension. I use .10-.52's for drop C on 25.5 guitars.
56 to 11 daddario for C# all the way. And when your tuning, try tuning the Low E, High E, B, A, G, D in that order to get it to evenly tension up or down.
I recently went the Iommi route, and have been playing a set of 10-52's in drop B on a 24.75" scale neck, and I can tell you it's massive sounding! I don't know who MGLA are, but that acronym makes me think of NAMBLA.
Mgła is Polish for "fog", and needs an L with a stroke. It's not an acronym. The German Wiki page suggests at least ambivalence to NSBM, which isn't the same as NAMBLA, but I dunno which is worse...
I've seen mgla live about 3 or 4 times and they are not nsbm or at least I have seen no evidence to suggest they are.Mgła is Polish for "fog", and needs an L with a stroke. It's not an acronym. The German Wiki page suggests at least ambivalence to NSBM, which isn't the same as NAMBLA, but I dunno which is worse...
These days all that seems to required for someone to associate you with nsbm is to have some element of black metal in your music or wear clothes commonly associated with bm, its a joke.
I'd never heard of nambla and now really wish I hadn't googled it...
New strings will do the trick. I have a guitar in Eb with 12s and it's not too bad so just get a new set of strings before you try to do anything major.
If that's 1 halfstep flat from DropD... yeah, the treble end is waaay too beefy. Especially on 25.5". Tension on the Floyd will be all wacky.
For reference, 11-54 is a good heavyish set for DropD on a Floyded 24.75" that some people deem too heavy... and on 25.5" it maybe would be. But not for half a step down, should be just right.
You want DR DDT's in 11-54 for DropC# on 25.5 with a Floyd. No thicker.
For reference, 11-54 is a good heavyish set for DropD on a Floyded 24.75" that some people deem too heavy... and on 25.5" it maybe would be. But not for half a step down, should be just right.
You want DR DDT's in 11-54 for DropC# on 25.5 with a Floyd. No thicker.
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