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I did some searching and I get bits and pieces about Agile. I have heard from a few dudes that really dig them, and other dudes that say they are cheap chinese mass manufactured crap.

For me I was looking at the Interceptor. I see there is a pro and non-pro. Difference seems to be neck through and actives?

I have been playing mostly Ibby's for years but wanted to mix it up with a new brand of seven that wont kill the bank and still be a decent guitar.

How are the trems?
What pickups they use in the non-pros?
Whats the build quality?
 

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I would describe them as inexpensive, chinese, and mass-produced, but I woulld definitely not call them crap. I've had 4, 2 Proi, and 2 two non pros, and I would pretty much kill to get any of them back.


Oh, and I also have a Brice 6 string bass from them, its pretty cool.
 

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its usually a hit or miss on QC, good when its good, and bad when its bad.
Overall they are a great bang for the buck. I'd say they are great for practice guitars or recording guitars, but i personally would only have them for specific instances.
 

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its usually a hit or miss on QC, good when its good, and bad when its bad.
Overall they are a great bang for the buck. I'd say they are great for practice guitars or recording guitars, but i personally would only have them for specific instances.
I agree, QC isn't all good, but Kurt is great on customer service so if you get a dud he will replace it.
I got an intrepid just to see if I liked 8 string guitars but I liked it so much I'm keeping it. And the cepheus pickups are really good imo, very much like the lundgrens only lower output.
 

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I would describe them as inexpensive, chinese, and mass-produced, but I woulld definitely not call them crap. I've had 4, 2 Proi, and 2 two non pros, and I would pretty much kill to get any of them back.
Except Agiles are Korean, not Chinese. The really cheap SX models are Chinese.

As has already been said, quality control is hit or miss, but with a no-questions-asked return policy that's not a huge deal if you're in the US. They're good bang for the buck overall if you're on a budget.

Stock pickups are ok but not great, better than most guitars in the same price range. The exception to this would be the eight string pups, which are surprisingly good for stock pups.
 

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Someday I would love to be able to offer a price-competitive product to this range, and actually have it be less than a crap-shoot from a QC perspective. I think the recent lower end USA Charvels are reasonably a close shot at hitting the mark.
 

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How are the trems? Not bad for a licensed floyd, I've tried lots worse.
What pickups they use in the non-pros? Stock, not bad either as said before.
Whats the build quality? Pretty good, but their finish is their weak point. They have a plasticy feel that you don't see in other similar priced guitars, like Schecter.
 

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I loved my Septor 727 (27" scale hardtail w/passives.) Great looks, great feel, great playability, decent pickups. My Intrepid wasn't quite as nice to play, and the Agile LPs are freaking amazing.
 

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My old Interceptor Pro was one of the better sevens I've owned--at any price--and I kinda wish I still had it. That said, QC is definitely hit or miss.

The trem in the Agiles is the same licensed Floyd that pretty much everybody except Ibanez uses on their low-end guitars.

My Pro had EMG pickups, so I can't speak to the no-name pickups they use in their other guitars. Those are easily replaced, though.
 

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How are the trems?
What pickups they use in the non-pros?
Whats the build quality?
Trems - liscensed Floyd. Crap, basically, but no worse than any other generic liscensed floyd.
Pickups - can't speak for the Interceptors, but the ones in my Texan are ok - nothing special, but not bad.
Build quality - The ones I've played felt about on par with a Mexican Fender. As good or better than most other guitars in their price range.

Kurt's customer service is pretty excellent, though. :yesway:
 

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Kurt needs to just open the damn box and look at the guitar before he ships it, and that would solve a ton of issues with QC.

"Oh look, there's a big fucking nick out of the side. I won't ship that".

Even great customer service gets tiresome when it's repetitive. I will say my friend's Brice was killer, as was his two LP's, and the SX strat he currently owns (this guy is the Matt-HighVolumeReseller510 of cheap guitars).
 

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Kurt needs to just open the damn box and look at the guitar before he ships it, and that would solve a ton of issues with QC.

"Oh look, there's a big fucking nick out of the side. I won't ship that".

Even great customer service gets tiresome when it's repetitive. I will say my friend's Brice was killer, as was his two LP's, and the SX strat he currently owns (this guy is the Matt-HighVolumeReseller510 of cheap guitars).
He's very upfront with the fact that he does way too much volume to open the boxes.
 

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He's very upfront with the fact that he does way too much volume to open the boxes.
I totally realize that; I'm just stating how I think he can improve QC. In other news, these are absolutely smokin' guitars:

http://www.rondomusic.com/al3000thrubbrq.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/product2857.html

I will say one thing about Kurt, and that is that he's been incredibly responsive to the guitar forum communities in regards to bringing new ideas to the table in an affordable manner.
 

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I've only had a texan 7 and AL-3100, and I really liked both guitars. I am GAS'ing hard for a silverburst AL-3100 and the AL-3200.
 

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That neck-thru AL is such a wasted opportunity to do a more sculpted heel. :(
That one is pretty strange. Most of their other neck through AL models actually do have the sculpted heel, sort of like the Dean LP-ish copies....I can't remember the Dean's model number. Anyways, I'm not sure why this one is neck through with that usual set neck heel.

One of my students has one of the Interceptor Pros with the Blackouts in it. It was a fantastic playing guitar. I didn't get to try out the trem though, but I assume it wouldn't have any issues seeing as how my Douglas SR370 I got from Rondo stays in tune perfectly.

The only Agile I have owned was one of the custom shop models. I ordered a Reaper 7 string. I ordered it with one of the stock pickups. Which wasn't bad at all, but like said earlier, it was a little low on the output making the low B a little muddy. Definitely not a bad stock pickup though.

I ended up returning the guitar though. The QC is hit or miss like people said. There were a few finish flaws with mine and they got some specs wrong. Kurt definitely hooked me up and offered money back or just to return it. I sent it back because some of the things they got wrong were a little too much for what I paid.

I think they are great production guitars, but I wouldn't go the custom route with them again. They are great for the prices that they are though and I'd have no problem buying another production one from them again. As a matter of fact, I really want the T7 and that B stock Pendulum that is up right now for a project.
 

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Actually I have found the best way to have them check the guitar before it ships out is by ordering a case. When I ordered my Intrepid and case when they went to put the guitar in the case and ship it they found that my dual pickup in darkburst was actually an oceanburst single pickup. Kurt contacted me right away and got it sorted. I have had two Agiles and both were exceptional for the money. I would not hesitate to buy another. My Al-2500 cost me around $550 with BKP's and it's an absolute beast of a guitar.
 
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