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I've played them side by side. They're the same amp design man. Probably the same down to every little capacitor. One's just made on the cheap in China.

I thought the 5150 clips had a touch more presence and thus a different character to the notes, but it might be hard to EQ them exactly the same due to parts differences.
 

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I could definitely hear a difference, with my eyes closed, I could tell them apart. The 5150 has a more solid chunk, while the Bugera sounds a little more "raw" is about the best I can explain it. Could be down to tube and component differences though :shrug: I wonder what would happen to this test if he had used the same set of tubes between both heads.
 

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I could definitely hear a difference, with my eyes closed, I could tell them apart. The 5150 has a more solid chunk, while the Bugera sounds a little more "raw" is about the best I can explain it. Could be down to tube and component differences though :shrug: I wonder what would happen to this test if he had used the same set of tubes between both heads.
:agreed: Forgot about those.
 

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Remember, each electronic component generally has at least a 10% accepted variance from each other one, and modern tubes can show even more variance. It's possible we're hearing that.
 

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Now I want to hear a comparison on the cleans :lol:
 

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Remember, each electronic component generally has at least a 10% accepted variance from each other one, and modern tubes can show even more variance.
This.

I would even say - take two 5150's out of the same production abtch, and the difference will be similar to the one you can hear in the vid.

That said - i think the vids/clips of this guy always sound a bit similar, and i think there is a bit post-processing done, so that makes them even more similar sounding in that vid.
 

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Ive asked him before and he said he foes use post eq and comp.
 

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I wouldn't buy the Bugera, simply because it's a stolen design. The Peaveys aren't that expensive for an American-made amp in the first place, and they're even cheaper used.
 

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That said - i think the vids/clips of this guy always sound a bit similar, and i think there is a bit post-processing done, so that makes them even more similar sounding in that vid.
Totally agreed. I've been saying this for ages, and everyone always jumps down my throat when I mention it :lol:
 

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I wouldn't buy the Bugera, simply because it's a stolen design. The Peaveys aren't that expensive for an American-made amp in the first place, and they're even cheaper used.
Well, to be fair - the 5150 isnt that original also... :D

But of course - there is a big difference between an amp based on the design of the SLO (which so many amps are), or a simple COPY. Which the Bugera is.

Further - For home use, i would even consider one, but as soon as i would have to lug it around a bit (gigs on regualr schedule, maybe touring) - unreliable shit is unreliable. Broke fanbois can keep on with the fairy tale about the big improvement of Quality Management in the Bugera Factory, i still call bullshit. Even one of the european distributors confimred that they fixed ONE common failure, which was causing almost 50% of the amps to break, but thats it.
 

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Remember, each electronic component generally has at least a 10% accepted variance from each other one, and modern tubes can show even more variance. It's possible we're hearing that.
This. My drummer and I both ordered a Roadster within weeks of one another, and they couldn't sound any different and still be a Recto. Mine was dark with smoother mids, and his was bright with upper mid grind.
 

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Well, to be fair - the 5150 isnt that original also... :D

But of course - there is a big difference between an amp based on the design of the SLO (which so many amps are), or a simple COPY. Which the Bugera is.

Further - For home use, i would even consider one, but as soon as i would have to lug it around a bit (gigs on regualr schedule, maybe touring) - unreliable shit is unreliable. Broke fanbois can keep on with the fairy tale about the big improvement of Quality Management in the Bugera Factory, i still call bullshit. Even one of the european distributors confimred that they fixed ONE common failure, which was causing almost 50% of the amps to break, but thats it.
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j/k

totally :agreed:
 
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