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I think the yellow on black looks AWESOME.

I've tried the Evo7 and I was beyond disappointed. I loaded it in the bridge position of an Ibanez RG7620 and talk about Stratty... The cleans were stellar, however it didnt take well to the gain channel. It was very unclear, weak and muddy. It didn't last 2 days in my guitar LOL Being that it's Vai's signature pickup, I can understand how the Evo's work with his tone... I mean his Jem is pretty much a glorified Strat if you think about it, (alder body, stratty soundin' pickups).

I've also had both neck + bridge Evolution 6 string versions loaded in a different Ibanez RG and I found the tone to be quite different. It still had that stratty sorta quality, but not as much of it. This was my only experience trying a 7 string version of a pickup that was originally designed for a 6 stringer. I'm sure they made some adjustments on the 7 string versions but IMO they weren't consistent.
 

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Angel, are you sure you didn't maybe have it in parallel? Prior to the X2N7, the Evo7 was the hottest Dimarzio 7 on the market.
 

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I think the yellow on black looks AWESOME.
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I've tried the Evo7 and I was beyond disappointed. I loaded it in the bridge position of an Ibanez RG7620 and talk about Stratty... The cleans were stellar, however it didnt take well to the gain channel. It was very unclear, weak and muddy.
Thanks dude!

Gotta +1 Drew on this, I've only played through my Peavey Rage practice amp, but this puppy is thick, rich and definitely a bit compressed. The low Bb just grinds away with awesome sustain. The cleans are nice though! But again I wouldn't call them bell-like or too Stratty other than being bright and clear. :2cents:
 

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I think the yellow on black looks AWESOME.

I've tried the Evo7 and I was beyond disappointed. I loaded it in the bridge position of an Ibanez RG7620 and talk about Stratty... The cleans were stellar, however it didnt take well to the gain channel. It was very unclear, weak and muddy. It didn't last 2 days in my guitar LOL Being that it's Vai's signature pickup, I can understand how the Evo's work with his tone... I mean his Jem is pretty much a glorified Strat if you think about it, (alder body, stratty soundin' pickups).

I've also had both neck + bridge Evolution 6 string versions loaded in a different Ibanez RG and I found the tone to be quite different. It still had that stratty sorta quality, but not as much of it. This was my only experience trying a 7 string version of a pickup that was originally designed for a 6 stringer. I'm sure they made some adjustments on the 7 string versions but IMO they weren't consistent.
There is no way you had it wired correctly if you had mud on either an Evo 6 or 7. Those pickups are straight up "icepick in the forhead" clarity with a side of "Sweet Jesu - the output." I've owned a lot of both the 6 and 7 versions, and I am a freak for clarity, especially on 7's.

Black and White get soldered together, red is your hot, green and bare go to your grounds, is usually what I go with. (Obviously you can get creative on which sides of the coils get joined, but if you stay consistant, it is usually safer.)
 

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There is no way you had it wired correctly if you had mud on either an Evo 6 or 7. Those pickups are straight up "icepick in the forhead" clarity with a side of "Sweet Jesu - the output." I've owned a lot of both the 6 and 7 versions, and I am a freak for clarity, especially on 7's.

Black and White get soldered together, red is your hot, green and bare go to your grounds, is usually what I go with. (Obviously you can get creative on which sides of the coils get joined, but if you stay consistant, it is usually safer.)
Yep, standard DiMarzio series wiring. Does anybody know what the "Virtual Vintage" technology is that DiMarzio uses to "round off the highs" on certain pickups? Seems one common strategy for them to copy a popular 6-string design to a 7-string model is to brighten up the sound a bunch so that the low notes are clear, but then use this Virtual Vintage design to keep the high notes from shrieking.

I'd post some clips but all I've got is a Boss Micro-BR and I don't know if that would do any sonic justice. :noway:
 

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Angel, are you sure you didn't maybe have it in parallel? Prior to the X2N7, the Evo7 was the hottest Dimarzio 7 on the market.
I don't go near any of my guitars with a soldering iron haha. I always have my pickus professionally installed, just don't trust myself to do any type of surgery. It's quite possible that it could have been installed differently, however I vividly remember the tone like it was yesterday. The neck Evo7 was decent, but that bridge :noway:

The Evo6s were much hotter and more along the lines of what I was going for tone-wise. I used the Evo6's for years until I switched out the bridge pickup with a D-Sonic.

There is no way you had it wired correctly if you had mud on either an Evo 6 or 7. Those pickups are straight up "icepick in the forhead" clarity with a side of "Sweet Jesu - the output." I've owned a lot of both the 6 and 7 versions, and I am a freak for clarity, especially on 7's.

Black and White get soldered together, red is your hot, green and bare go to your grounds, is usually what I go with. (Obviously you can get creative on which sides of the coils get joined, but if you stay consistant, it is usually safer.)
I never knew that there was a whole other science to installing pickups. So youre saying that if you combine the wires differently you can get different sounds out of them? o.0
 

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I never knew that there was a whole other science to installing pickups. So youre saying that if you combine the wires differently you can get different sounds out of them? o.0
Hell yes! A pickup is basically just a current generator, so depending on how you sum, split and route the outputs you can get different tones, coil combinations with your switch, etc. For example, Brian May has his (middle?) pickup wired out of phase 180 degrees, yielding his classic nasal sounding lead tone.

You can also mess with the system with different capacitors and tone pot impedances.
 

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Hell yes! A pickup is basically just a current generator, so depending on how you sum, split and route the outputs you can get different tones, coil combinations with your switch, etc. For example, Brian May has his (middle?) pickup wired out of phase 180 degrees, yielding his classic nasal sounding lead tone.

You can also mess with the system with different capacitors and tone pot impedances.
The only thing I was barely aware of was being able to run active pickups at 18v or something like that. :shrug: That's really remarkable stuff though, surprised I haven't come across any other guitar players that take advantage of these options. Learn new things everyday!

I've always been a "plug and play" kind of guitar player. Can't tell you diddely squat about OHMs, tubes, rack gear etc. Hell, I barely know theory! LOL I'm learning more and more as I get older though. Maybe when I'm 50 I'll be able to install a pickup :D
 

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Actually, in Brian May's case he can change each pickup's phase status, thus why he was able to get so many different tones.
 

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Actually, in Brian May's case he can change each pickup's phase status, thus why he was able to get so many different tones.
Right, so... what I said :p

I think he runs the neck humbucker with the middle together in series, and they're out phase. He just has the option to reverse phase on any pickup with the flick of a switch instead of it being hardwired :yesway:
 
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