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So earlier this week (monday) I got a parcel in the mail. No picstory here, just some insights into my new toy, and "TOANZ". So on to the toys. Long boring story short, I picked up a used ENGL e530 from a guy on SS.org and FINALLY got it into my rack today.

I was so stoked on finally getting my all-rack rig going that I even photoshopped myself a picture of the finished rack so that I could look at it while the parts are on order.



A few things I REALLY like about this pre-amp, is the foot switching system it uses. It's like a match made in heaven for my g-system. The TRS footpedal jacks work like a charm with the g-system relay switchingm allowing me to control my channel switching and hi/low gain settings on the e530, as well as STILL having the second rlay jack open for something else (i might just use it for my tuner, so i can one touch mute/tune right from my pedalboard, instead of walking over to my rig to hit the mute button. I COULD use the second relay with the e530, but all I'd get to control is the preamp defeat, and contour buttons, and honestly, I'd be leaving the contour on all the time anyways. Relay switching the preamp defeat button with my setup is so redundant it's laughable. I have my setup run with the loops in my g-system controlling where each of my pedals and junk are in the signal chain. The chain goes OD808 > e530 > MXR EQ > ISP. I can switch any of those 4 loops on/off at any time at the touch of a button, so why do I need a relay cable to do the same thing? I don't. SHADDAP!

So I cabled everything up (sloppily) and got to testing out a few riffs. It's kinda strange, but the e530 sounds a lot like my XXX did. I'm thinking this is because I'm running through the power section of the XXX, with all the same pedals and gear. I mean, all the XXX did was control how much gain and volume I had, and all my EQ was done in the g-system and with the MXR EQ. I was worried I wouldn't like the tone of the ENGL as much and my head, but so far those worries are completely unfounded. I've still got tone that I dig, even if I'm still chained to that 50lb box of loud. The true test will be when my velocity 300 shows up and I REALLY get to testing things out. If all the hype about the velocity is true to fact, then I should be just about set for awesome tone. But, hype is hype, so we'll see what happens. It's suck balls for this poweramp to sound bad after I bought it new :(

Since I'm typing this crap and have nothing better to do, I should also mention that I'm looking to add a few things to the rig after I get my power amp, just to complete the functionality of "teh rack". It looks like I have enough space for at least one more pedal in the loop of the g-system, sincethe insert loop (as far as I know) is functionally EXACTLY the same as the 4 other loops that come before it, so I want to throw a line driver/boost pedal in the 2nd last loop so I can have an actual boost in my rig. (before you ask, the boost in the g-system actually attenuates your signal from the get-go, the higher you boost, the more it attenuates. this attenuation sucks tone HARD, so I have it locked to be "boosted" at all times. Activating the boost gives you your original signal level back, and thus, more volume.)

The last piece of gear I'm looking at is the new Line 6 G50 wireless. It's $400US, but from what I've read, and the reveiws and videos I've seen, it's basically the best new wireless out there...period. No license required in other countries, good battery life, no tone sucking at greater ranges, only 12 channels to select from (all of them free, at all times...unless someone else is using your channel, I guess.) It even has cable modelling, to simulate the high end roll-off from long cable runs, if you're used to that. It says it's range is 200ft line of sight, but that still allows for moving between walls and crap, from the youtube videos I've seen. Kids leaving the g30 (100ft range LoS) in their basement and walking up to the send floor of thier house wihtout it cutting out, dudes walking across the street with traffic and all that shit, with no interference, and no tone loss. Seriously impressive, and I've always wanted a wireless. the only reason I'm going with the g50 over the g30 (besides the fact that it has double the channels, range, tuner out, and cable sims) is the all metal housing for the transmitter and reciever. Even if it's hardened, or some special plastic, i don't trust it. I'd rather have metal (wouldn't we all?), and I think that justifies the extra $100.

So yeah, enough with my wall of text. I'll be taking pics of the new rig once the velocity and my rack drawer arrive.

Until then...do....stuff?

TL;DR

Got an e530, sounds baller.


This is further down the page as well. Figured I'd keep everything on the first post if I could.
 

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Very nice. I'll probably be picking one of these up first of the year. Its a toss up between this or a VHT Deliverance, depends on which one I can find and for what price when I have the cash in hand. I have heard nothing but good reviews and have loved every clip i've heard of this preamp. :yesway:
 

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That's a sweet setup! I really like my e530, the extra mid control on the gain channel is great. Mine is broken at the moment, it turns on but I don't get any signal from it. It's been stuck in my practice space for the last while so I haven't had a chance to bring it home and properly troubleshoot it.
 

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Here's a clip of the e530. It was recorded direct into Cubase with Poulin's LeCab, and a Catharsis IR. I can post a clip of the the e530 and drums if you want as well. That clip is the e530 tone sitting on top of 4 other tracks of guitar, so it might be a bit hard to distinguish. I was also trying to dial it in to fit this particular mix, so it all sounds the same. The ENGL is a little fizzier than the other guitar parts, but you barely hear it in the mix.

It's also an original song, for any who haven't heard it before. Any comments or crits on the mix would be appreciated.
 

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That sounds awesome dude! :metal: What are you using for drums there?

+ Best camera faces ever. :lol:
 

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That sounds awesome dude! :metal: What are you using for drums there?

+ Best camera faces ever. :lol:
Drums are Superior 2.0 - NY Avatar Kit. With a post EQ curve like a fucking rollercoaster. Sounds okay though.

And yes, That was done with an HD camdorder I had briefly before returning it because it wouldn't record anything with the build in mic if the screen was flipped over. I'm not used to having to stare directly at what's recording me. (being that the monitoring screen in RIGHT BESIDE THE LENS!) The song's REALLY easy too. So there was a bit of boredom contributing to the amount of faces made as well.

I just watched a bunch of e530 videos, I completely have GAS for this thing again! :lol:
For the price of the unit, it will do that. I'm loving the hell out of it. Awsome tone and even with a relatively heavy power amp (20lb single space rack) it's still a full 20+ pounds lighter than my old head...Smaller too. I just wish I had my poweramp :(

I'll mention as well that I got in contact with steve's music and they've got my velocity on the way to them as I type this. Hopefully it'll be there by next weekend, so my girl can pick it up on her way here. She's awesome.

Anyone know to make power cables? I wanna make the cord on my furman longer, and make custom length power cables for the rest of my rack gear for easier tie off. A shove in the right direction would be killer.
 

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For the price of the unit, it will do that. I'm loving the hell out of it. Awsome tone and even with a relatively heavy power amp (20lb single space rack) it's still a full 20+ pounds lighter than my old head...Smaller too. I just wish I had my poweramp :(
It really will. When I got my Mesa it was a toss up between this and the Mesa, and the Mesa won because of price But ultimately I want both in my rig, running at the same time. (This is for a "Country" gig btw :lol:) Similar to Devin Townsend's (SYL era) rig, with the two dry amps, and then one wet for his effects, all going through one big MIDI board for switching.
 

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Alright 7deadlysins, your thread about the wet/dry rig and the pic of devin's rig caused the loss of like 4 hours of time. As a result, I now have this:



Looks pretty close to the rig i want to end up with. As well as a more detailed diagram for anyone who cares.
 

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:metal: as fuck!

What is the TC Electronic Looper's actual name? I tried googling it but couldn't find it. Do they not make it anymore?
It's the g-system's brain. It comes in 2 parts. The floor board, and the brain. The brain comes stock, mounted underneath the board, allowing for a traditional pedalboard. Alternatively, you can remove the brain and mount it in a 19" rack, allowing for a tidier floor setup. The floorboard is also powered only by a single CAT5 ethernet cable, and you can attach basically any volume pedal to it to control volume/wah, or a number of other parameters, but since I don't have a volume pedal yet, I cannot tell you what those are.

for the record, i should mention that loop 5 is actually labeled as the "insert loop" which is supposed to be used for the preamp section of any amp, but I think all the loops are functionally the same. TIme will tell. Or I could ask Laird...
 

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It's the g-system's brain. It comes in 2 parts. The floor board, and the brain. The brain comes stock, mounted underneath the board, allowing for a traditional pedalboard. Alternatively, you can remove the brain and mount it in a 19" rack, allowing for a tidier floor setup. The floorboard is also powered only by a single CAT5 ethernet cable, and you can attach basically any volume pedal to it to control volume/wah, or a number of other parameters, but since I don't have a volume pedal yet, I cannot tell you what those are.
Wow, thats pretty nifty. I will consider one of these in the future to replace m Lexicon.
 

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for the record, i should mention that loop 5 is actually labeled as the "insert loop" which is supposed to be used for the preamp section of any amp, but I think all the loops are functionally the same. TIme will tell. Or I could ask Laird...
Darren would know. He's an effects junkie and has been trying to "break" the G-System (unsuccessfully) for a while now.
 

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Wow, thats pretty nifty. I will consider one of these in the future to replace m Lexicon.
If you feel like dropping $1500. I got mine used for $1000 (they cost over $2k after taxes here in london). It's a big investment, but it was definitely just hte ticket for my setup. For $1500, you might be better off with an axe fx. The G-system just has a little of everything all built in. 9v pedal power outs, 5 true bypass loops, TONS of effects, and the coolest looking floor board ever. Just right for me...and steve via too, apparently.
 

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<3 free bumps.

Anyone know of a good sliding rack shelf I can get without resorting to buying from the US and getting raped by customs?
 
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