There's a nice piece in Skolnick's book where he talks about learning the realities of this. Schencker, Moore and Rhoads also talked about it extensively in the early '80s.
EVH recording Solos according to David Lee Roth
This is something that had crossed my mind many times. How many of these recorded Solos were really done in one go or even part of the same "flow" and idea?
According to Dave some of these Solos that are on the Albuns are in reality pieces and bits of different solos that were cut, pasted and mixed to make it a single one. Maybe that's why Eddie (and others) never plays the same twice apart from some parts (they cant remember how they did it). Dave Murray is also an example of someone that never plays the Solos like he recorded them, apart from what to me is his best Solo on the song Powerslave.
According to Dave some of these Solos that are on the Albuns are in reality pieces and bits of different solos that were cut, pasted and mixed to make it a single one. Maybe that's why Eddie (and others) never plays the same twice apart from some parts (they cant remember how they did it). Dave Murray is also an example of someone that never plays the Solos like he recorded them, apart from what to me is his best Solo on the song Powerslave.
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I need to buy that book... Its on my Wishlist on Book Depository and I was going to order it 2 weeks ago as a book for my vacations... shit totally forgot and now its too late 
David Gilmour is the king of this. He's talked about how he records several solos, identifies the best parts of each, and rides the cross faders to create a final solo. Then, he learns it to see if it's playable, going back and changing the impossible bits.
This is far from a revelation, people have done this for many reasons and sometimes its done from the producers chair to make things fit a format then later on you either learn the edited version or just play what youve been playing all along.
EVH would be the original djenter if he didn't spend the rest of his career nailing all of those solos live.
It's not a bad thing to put your best foot forward on the record, as long as you can actually pull it off later. Otherwise you just look like these guys.
It's not a bad thing to put your best foot forward on the record, as long as you can actually pull it off later. Otherwise you just look like these guys.
His shirt looks like a sun dress. WTFEVH would be the original djenter if he didn't spend the rest of his career nailing all of those solos live.
It's not a bad thing to put your best foot forward on the record, as long as you can actually pull it off later. Otherwise you just look like these guys.
My favorite story about this came from Mark from Jag Panzer: When they were recording "The Fourth Judgement", Joey Taffola (legendary for his dickheadishness about having ever been involved with Jag Panzer) recorded a crossfaded monstrosity of a solo, and then said "There. No one will ever be able to play that", knowing that he wasn't going to be touring with the band. When Broderick auditioned for the band, it was one of his audition songs, and nailed the solo. :lol:
I knew the clowns in The HAARP Machine were going to end up in this thread. :lol:
That is awesome. :lol:My favorite story about this came from Mark from Jag Panzer: When they were recording "The Fourth Judgement", Joey Taffola (legendary for his dickheadishness about having ever been involved with Jag Panzer) recorded a crossfaded monstrosity of a solo, and then said "There. No one will ever be able to play that", knowing that he wasn't going to be touring with the band. When Broderick auditioned for the band, it was one of his audition songs, and nailed the solo. :lol:
He got Broderick'd . :rofl:My favorite story about this came from Mark from Jag Panzer: When they were recording "The Fourth Judgement", Joey Taffola (legendary for his dickheadishness about having ever been involved with Jag Panzer) recorded a crossfaded monstrosity of a solo, and then said "There. No one will ever be able to play that", knowing that he wasn't going to be touring with the band. When Broderick auditioned for the band, it was one of his audition songs, and nailed the solo. :lol:
But there are people that play EVH solos like they are on the record so they are not really impossible to learn. Although I'm not really found on hearing or watching Live performances and the solos resemble nothing of what was recorded. No one does that with Lyrics so why on the Solos? Its ok to make up and came out even better but rarely it comes out better in fact the opposite.When Broderick auditioned for the band, it was one of his audition songs, and nailed the solo. :lol:
Unless you're John Petrucci who can do both.But there are people that play EVH solos like they are on the record so they are not really impossible to learn. Although I'm not really found on hearing or watching Live performances and the solos resemble nothing of what was recorded. No one does that with Lyrics so why on the Solos? Its ok to make up and came out even better but rarely it comes out better in fact the opposite.
Wait EVH doesn't play the same solos live? What?
Wait EVH doesn't play the same solos live? What?
This was around the release of Fair Warning, so he probably didn't have the final solo down pat.
Okay, that's very different than the way it's being characterized. Comparing EVH to HAARP (lol) is night and day, HAARP punched solos to death because they couldn't play them, EVH (supposedly) punched solos because he had three or four different ideas and a combination of them worked depending on how it sounded in the mix. Implying he did it because he couldn't play his solos, or him butchering his solos live because of it, is fake moon landing shit.
I heard EVH eats humboldt squid with coco ice tea as a way to relieve his chronic Bugera Tri Rec Infinium Tube Amplifier.
#justJoeRoganthings
#justJoeRoganthings
Yngwie.... not playing solos note for note for almost 40 years.... yet the same solo for 40 years :flex:
I think EVH had a very Seventies approach to soloing, where improvisation and spontaneity were more important than perfection. With that, comping a bunch of spontaneous takes makes sense.
This is Eric Johnson. I hate the random pack of licks he does for the solo section in the middle. The recorded version is so perfect, and love he just meanders around.But there are people that play EVH solos like they are on the record so they are not really impossible to learn. Although I'm not really found on hearing or watching Live performances and the solos resemble nothing of what was recorded. No one does that with Lyrics so why on the Solos? Its ok to make up and came out even better but rarely it comes out better in fact the opposite.
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