[Naren]

This tremolo annoys the fuck out of me. :lol: When it's in tune, it stays in tune. But good luck getting it in tune. On my RG1527, I have 5 tremolo springs in and the screws screwed back as far as they'll go. Because of that, I can tune very easily with very little effect on the other strings. But the way the Edge-Zero works, it only has enough slots for 2 tremolo springs, so it's impossible to put in 3 or 4 or 5.

It seems to take hours to get the thing in tune. Because if you move the fine tuner a tenth of a centimeter, every single other string's tuning changes like 10 cents. If I can't find a way to remedy this, I would never consider playing this thing live because it would take an infinity to tune the damn thing up.

I would consider locking the tremolo down since I never actually use the trem for anything, but the area inbetween seems smaller on the Edge-Zero. So I can't think of anything that would be the right size to fit snugly in there. Also, I'm not sure if that would really fix the problem or not.

Any suggestions on making tuning easy? I considering removing the ZR system before I realized that then I would have a fully floating trem with only two springs which would be pretty horrific.

 

[Max]

those 2 springs naren, will go just as tight as 5 normal springs. theyre significanlty shorter (by like 30%) and can be stretched to a total lenght LONGER than a normal trem spring gets stretched. You have nothing to worry about. the 2 in my S7320 got it to take 11-72s in B and i was only about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way through the travel

 

[darren]

Isn't the whole point of the Zero-point system to be able to get the bridge totally balanced and stable in its neutral position? It sounds like it's just not properly dialed in yet.

 

[Naren]

those 2 springs naren, will go just as tight as 5 normal springs. theyre significanlty shorter (by like 30%) and can be stretched to a total lenght LONGER than a normal trem spring gets stretched. You have nothing to worry about. the 2 in my S7320 got it to take 11-72s in B and i was only about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way through the travel

You mean as a floating trem?

Because it doesn't take anything at all with the ZR system enabled and I have the thing cranked back 100% of the way away from the bridge.

 

[Naren]

Isn't the whole point of the Zero-point system to be able to get the bridge totally balanced and stable in its neutral position? It sounds like it's just not properly dialed in yet.

That's the point, but it doesn't seem to work.

 

[Max]

You mean as a floating trem?

Because it doesn't take anything at all with the ZR system enabled and I have the thing cranked back 100% of the way away from the bridge.

with the zr unit thing taken out, just running normally yes.

 

[Naren]

with the zr unit thing taken out, just running normally yes.

Would you recommend that?

If I could get this thing free-floating with just its 2 springs to be as stable as my RG1527's trem with it's 5 springs, I would be a happy man.

 

[noodles]

It is the only trem I use for a reason.

 

[Naren]

^The key word there is "use." I don't use any tremolos at all. I try to make my tremoloed guitars as close to a hard tail as I can.

The last time I used a tremolo bar at a gig was about 3 and a half years ago and the last time I used one at practice was maybe 2 and a half years ago.

I took out the ZR system and in less than 30 seconds later, I had my guitar perfectly in tune and sounding beautiful again. YAY! Sounds like Max was right.

 

[noodles]

Ah, so with the ZR out of the way, can you now block it?

 

[Naren]

Ah, so with the ZR out of the way, can you now block it?

Yes, but Max was 100% right. I don't need to block it. Beforehand, I would just barely change the tuning on one string and the tunings on all the other strings would change dramatically. With the ZR out of the way (and with the strings still screwed as far back into the body as they go), I can tune strings somewhat significantly with almost no effect on the other strings.

I'm extremely happy now because the entire feel transformed into exactly how my 5-springs-cranked-to-the-max RG1527 feels (which is the result of 5 years of owning the guitar and tweaking the tremolo).

 

[Max]

Yes, but Max was 100% right. I don't need to block it. Beforehand, I would just barely change the tuning on one string and the tunings on all the other strings would change dramatically. With the ZR out of the way (and with the strings still screwed as far back into the body as they go), I can tune strings somewhat significantly with almost no effect on the other strings.

I'm extremely happy now because the entire feel transformed into exactly how my 5-springs-cranked-to-the-max RG1527 does (which is the result of 5 years of owning the guitar and tweaking the tremolo).

if you want to have the zr functionality, set it up how you like it with the ZR out, slap in the ZR, and loosen the trem just a touce to bring it back to flat.

 

[Naren]

if you want to have the zr functionality, set it up how you like it with the ZR out, slap in the ZR, and loosen the trem just a touce to bring it back to flat.

I think I'll give that a try sometime within the next week or so. :yesway:

 

[Drew]

Wait, so you have the springs cranked all the way into the body? Like, so the trem is pulled back into the cavity, to sort of "block" the thing against the back of the body? :scratch:

If so, I don't think it's the bridge that's the problem, I think you're just not used to a floating bridge.

 

[eelblack2]

Sounds like to need to reset and refloat that thing.

 

[1]

Pics, por favor.

 

[Naren]

Wait, so you have the springs cranked all the way into the body? Like, so the trem is pulled back into the cavity, to sort of "block" the thing against the back of the body? :scratch:

... No... If I did that, the strings would be so low that they would be either touching the frets so that I would get nothing but buzzing or even lower so that no sound came out period.

I have the screws screwed all the way back to the "wall-thingy" but with the tremolo perfectly level. I also put as many tremolo springs on as possible and screw them as far back as possible to put as much tension on the bridge as possible. So the bridge is as stiff as possible, which isn't very good if you want to be Steve Vai, but great for someone like me who pretty much never uses the whammy bar.

The tremolo is far from blocked.

I made a video to show what I'm talking about:

If so, I don't think it's the bridge that's the problem, I think you're just not used to a floating bridge.

That would be pretty pathetic since I've been using floating bridges every single day for the past 5 years (with only 4-5 months of that period with the tremolo blocked sometime in early 2006).

I'd say I'm pretty comfortable with a typical standard floating bridge.

 

[The Dark Wolf]

You go, Eric.

 

[stealthtastic]

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Yeah, fuckin' drew.

 

[Naren]

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Yeah, fuckin' drew.

:rofl:

And... "A destroyer of short people"? :lol: