You mean as a floating trem?
Because it doesn't take anything at all with the ZR system enabled and I have the thing cranked back 100% of the way away from the bridge.
Goddamn fuckin' Edge-Zero
This tremolo annoys the fuck out of me. :lol: When it's in tune, it stays in tune. But good luck getting it in tune. On my RG1527, I have 5 tremolo springs in and the screws screwed back as far as they'll go. Because of that, I can tune very easily with very little effect on the other strings. But the way the Edge-Zero works, it only has enough slots for 2 tremolo springs, so it's impossible to put in 3 or 4 or 5.
It seems to take hours to get the thing in tune. Because if you move the fine tuner a tenth of a centimeter, every single other string's tuning changes like 10 cents. If I can't find a way to remedy this, I would never consider playing this thing live because it would take an infinity to tune the damn thing up.
I would consider locking the tremolo down since I never actually use the trem for anything, but the area inbetween seems smaller on the Edge-Zero. So I can't think of anything that would be the right size to fit snugly in there. Also, I'm not sure if that would really fix the problem or not.
Any suggestions on making tuning easy? I considering removing the ZR system before I realized that then I would have a fully floating trem with only two springs which would be pretty horrific.
It seems to take hours to get the thing in tune. Because if you move the fine tuner a tenth of a centimeter, every single other string's tuning changes like 10 cents. If I can't find a way to remedy this, I would never consider playing this thing live because it would take an infinity to tune the damn thing up.
I would consider locking the tremolo down since I never actually use the trem for anything, but the area inbetween seems smaller on the Edge-Zero. So I can't think of anything that would be the right size to fit snugly in there. Also, I'm not sure if that would really fix the problem or not.
Any suggestions on making tuning easy? I considering removing the ZR system before I realized that then I would have a fully floating trem with only two springs which would be pretty horrific.
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Because it doesn't take anything at all with the ZR system enabled and I have the thing cranked back 100% of the way away from the bridge.
That's the point, but it doesn't seem to work.Isn't the whole point of the Zero-point system to be able to get the bridge totally balanced and stable in its neutral position? It sounds like it's just not properly dialed in yet.
Would you recommend that?with the zr unit thing taken out, just running normally yes.
If I could get this thing free-floating with just its 2 springs to be as stable as my RG1527's trem with it's 5 springs, I would be a happy man.
^The key word there is "use." I don't use any tremolos at all. I try to make my tremoloed guitars as close to a hard tail as I can.
The last time I used a tremolo bar at a gig was about 3 and a half years ago and the last time I used one at practice was maybe 2 and a half years ago.
I took out the ZR system and in less than 30 seconds later, I had my guitar perfectly in tune and sounding beautiful again. YAY! Sounds like Max was right.
The last time I used a tremolo bar at a gig was about 3 and a half years ago and the last time I used one at practice was maybe 2 and a half years ago.
I took out the ZR system and in less than 30 seconds later, I had my guitar perfectly in tune and sounding beautiful again. YAY! Sounds like Max was right.
Yes, but Max was 100% right. I don't need to block it. Beforehand, I would just barely change the tuning on one string and the tunings on all the other strings would change dramatically. With the ZR out of the way (and with the strings still screwed as far back into the body as they go), I can tune strings somewhat significantly with almost no effect on the other strings.Ah, so with the ZR out of the way, can you now block it?
I'm extremely happy now because the entire feel transformed into exactly how my 5-springs-cranked-to-the-max RG1527 feels (which is the result of 5 years of owning the guitar and tweaking the tremolo).
I think I'll give that a try sometime within the next week or so. :yesway:if you want to have the zr functionality, set it up how you like it with the ZR out, slap in the ZR, and loosen the trem just a touce to bring it back to flat.
... No... If I did that, the strings would be so low that they would be either touching the frets so that I would get nothing but buzzing or even lower so that no sound came out period.Wait, so you have the springs cranked all the way into the body? Like, so the trem is pulled back into the cavity, to sort of "block" the thing against the back of the body? :scratch:
I have the screws screwed all the way back to the "wall-thingy" but with the tremolo perfectly level. I also put as many tremolo springs on as possible and screw them as far back as possible to put as much tension on the bridge as possible. So the bridge is as stiff as possible, which isn't very good if you want to be Steve Vai, but great for someone like me who pretty much never uses the whammy bar.
The tremolo is far from blocked.
I made a video to show what I'm talking about:
That would be pretty pathetic since I've been using floating bridges every single day for the past 5 years (with only 4-5 months of that period with the tremolo blocked sometime in early 2006).If so, I don't think it's the bridge that's the problem, I think you're just not used to a floating bridge.
I'd say I'm pretty comfortable with a typical standard floating bridge.
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Yeah, fuckin' drew.
And... "A destroyer of short people"? :lol:
:lol::rofl: I've seen people speed up videos to look faster, but never slow them down.
EDIT - nevermind, for some reason my computer is playing back audio at half tempo...? Odd. Time for a reboot. :lol:
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You decide. :lol: I'm experiencing a little bit of both.
10-59s, yo. 10-59s. But, as you could see in the video (if you watched it without the slow-down malfunction your PC was experiencing), you can see that both guitars are perfectly 100% parallel with the body and sound fine. More than fine! They sound MAGNIFICO!If you use five strings, cranked all the way down, you're using some pretty serious spring tension. You either must string with 15s, or the trem wouldn't be parallel with the body.
For perspective, I have 10-68's on my UV, with three springs, and they're not cranked in that far. That's all it takes to keep my trem level.
But, also for perspective, I used to have only three springs in my 1527 with 10-56s and it was parallel with the body. It just didn't have anywhere near as much tension as I have now.
But I've been using five springs with 10-59s on my RG1527 for about... eh... four years now, I'd guess.
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