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Man, hearing that out of the context of the song does it no justice. What really makes that solo cool is how all those changes that seem disjointed by themselves, perfectly track the insane rhythm part underneath it.
 

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0:19 is almost identical to the lick near the end of Ty Tabor's second solo on "Over My Head" at 2:26.


I always loved that lick, it's just so emotive sounding. I didn't notice it was in both songs until just now.
 

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I agree, JP's days back when he was playing for Ibanez was much better. This solo still rules and I agree with Dave it's out of context without the music.
 

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I agree, JP's days back when he was playing for Ibanez was much better. This solo still rules and I agree with Dave it's out of context without the music.
Yeah his soloing was iconic on the early records. That's something he definitely lost over time. He's still putting out incredible stuff, but nothing beats their first 4-5 albums for his memorable and inspired lead guitar work, definitely.

One thing I do love is when modern Dream Theater plays old school DT:

 

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So many awesome techniques, so many styles fused together, all performed flawlessly. This video is further proof that as good as we all think we are, we are not Petrucci. Still one of my favorite solos, 19 years later.

YouTube - John Petrucci Under a Glass Moon Solo
Agreed on all levels. I learned that YEARS ago & it was a blast to play. Makes me wanna go figure out that solo again.
 

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Also, Kevin Moore DT > *.
I actually really liked Falling Into Infinity, but I think for the same reasons I loved Moore-era DT; Kevin Moore was more of a songwriter than a prog guy and I think he helped keep some of their more self-indulgent tendencies in check. FII, the producers were doing that for them, and in both cases you were getting great prog performances but within very musical arrangements. These days, theyre more likely to just pull out all the stops and be done with it, and I think the writing suffers for it.

Then again, they say Portnoy was a big part of that - I'll be REALLY curious to hear the next DT album.
 

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I actually really liked Falling Into Infinity, but I think for the same reasons I loved Moore-era DT; Kevin Moore was more of a songwriter than a prog guy and I think he helped keep some of their more self-indulgent tendencies in check. FII, the producers were doing that for them, and in both cases you were getting great prog performances but within very musical arrangements. These days, theyre more likely to just pull out all the stops and be done with it, and I think the writing suffers for it.
We've had this conversation so many times. I totally agree. Again. :lol:
 

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*Oft-repeated post bemoaning the soulless, boring nature of recent DT albums and the utter lack of coherent songwriting skills exhibited.*

*Further opinion that perhaps the departure of Portnoy is for the best, tempered by an assertion that he was only a part of the problem.*

*Ending with a hopeful but not optimistic statement.*
 

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Right. Having said all that though, I really loved Octavarium and their last album. I thought those albums were more song oriented and very inspired, Portnoy vocals and the AA songs notwithstanding (i.e. enough of that).
 
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