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I haven't dug into it yet, but over the next couple of weeks I'm working to put, uh, data on it using some, um, other software. :lol:

Holy shit is the screen fantastic. Dunno about the API yet, but by this time next month I hope to have a pretty good idea.
 

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On the surface it's pretty sweet, since HTC's Sense kicks ass compared to standard WinMo.

But once you start poking around, you eventually find yourself running into WinMo classic more and more.

Pretty powerful device though.
 

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Euro plugs are retarded :lol:

That is the nicest looking WinMo device I've ever seen.
 

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Lemme tell you personally from having to actually do tech support for this phone with T-Mobile...it is PLAGUED with software issues! :lol: it's an amazing phone and great if you like Windows Mobile, and overall period the phone is amazing, I just wish the software bugs would get fixed sooner rather than later! :mad:
 

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It's a UK plug, not a Euro plug.

Yeah, they are pretty big. It's a throwback to the original plugs we used to use that are now only used in theatrical lighting rigs.
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Thanks for clearing that up, because I had seen both styles and I wondered why some were huge, and some were less huge. Also, I find the rounded poles on the new one strange. Americans are so used to our smaller two bladed plugs that the European varieties look ludicrous :lol:
 

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Thanks for clearing that up, because I had seen both styles and I wondered why some were huge, and some were less huge. Also, I find the rounded poles on the new one strange. Americans are so used to our smaller two bladed plugs that the European varieties look ludicrous :lol:
No no, the rounded ones are the originals, they're a throwback to our earliest electrical system in the 1920's and 30's. They're still used in dimmable lighting applications for theatres and whatnot because of the higher current they can handle (5-15A) as opposed to standard UK amperage (3-13A).

The reason Chris' plug is absolutely fucking massive is because it'll be reverse engineerd from a US design to a UK design, and he's now using it in the US again. :lol:

The actual plug itself is small, about 5/8" thick and maybe 1.5x1.5" square, enough to cover the spaces between all the prongs. The rest of it is transformer built into the plug to step it up to 230V since the US runs on 110 I believe and most of the EU runs on 125V.

The other thing I was a bit unsure on is whether US plugs are fused? They look far too small to be able to open up and replace a fuse in them!
 

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No no, the rounded ones are the originals, they're a throwback to our earliest electrical system in the 1920's and 30's. They're still used in dimmable lighting applications for theatres and whatnot because of the higher current they can handle (5-15A) as opposed to standard UK amperage (3-13A).

The reason Chris' plug is absolutely fucking massive is because it'll be reverse engineerd from a US design to a UK design, and he's now using it in the US again. :lol:

The actual plug itself is small, about 5/8" thick and maybe 1.5x1.5" square, enough to cover the spaces between all the prongs. The rest of it is transformer built into the plug to step it up to 230V since the US runs on 110 I believe and most of the EU runs on 125V.

The other thing I was a bit unsure on is whether US plugs are fused? They look far too small to be able to open up and replace a fuse in them!
Holy shit I read that wrong :lol: That makes a lot more sense now. I also didn't realize that the "UK/Euro" plugs we get here have transformers inside them. Our plugs are typically not fused. Any fuse will be inside the unit, not the plug.
 

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Holy shit I read that wrong :lol: That makes a lot more sense now. I also didn't realize that the "UK/Euro" plugs we get here have transformers inside them. Our plugs are typically not fused. Any fuse will be inside the unit, not the plug.
Well that's where the size difference is. Our plugs have fuses running between the neutral and earth prongs. Can't remember why they are in the plugs rather than the unit but it's safety related.

Not all plugs have transformers in them - just most of them! Most often mobile phone chargers and pedal power supplies and whatnot. The plug for my Apple iMac is tiny since it does its electrical swappery internally.
 

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Well that's where the size difference is. Our plugs have fuses running between the neutral and earth prongs. Can't remember why they are in the plugs rather than the unit but it's safety related.

Not all plugs have transformers in them - just most of them! Most often mobile phone chargers and pedal power supplies and whatnot. The plug for my Apple iMac is tiny since it does its electrical swappery internally.
We have plugs with transformers built in too. We call them "wall warts" or "A.C. adapters". Basically anything too small to house it's own transformer, gets one of these plugs. We also have "in-line" transformers that eliminate the wall wart issue.

Same shit different plug? :lol:
 
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