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Dream Crusher
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2010 LA Amp Fest, Saturday December 11th - Gearslutz.com

Videos are fun watching. Cool stuff too, I liked his high-gain and humbucker shootouts. The best part is this uses similar mic setups and cabs as the previous high-gain shootout so it should still be possible to compare them.
 

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In other news, I have severe Reeves and Vox GAS now.





 

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I wonder if they'll have enough amps. :lol:
 

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There's a livestream going right now on the ustream site. It's not showing anything interesting, but holy shit is that room packed with amps.
 

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LIST:

MID GAIN CENTRAL
Bogner Custom Hi Gain Mojado (2 Watt)
Bogner 12 Watt Mojado
Vox AC15HTVH Handwired
Jet City JCA 20H (Friedman)
Egnater Tweaker
Red Plate Amps Blackverb
Dr. Z Carmen Ghia
Marshall Club And Country (early 80's)
Marshall 1974X Handwired
Blankenship Carry On
Fender Twin (late 60's silverface) Blankenship mod (bypassed tone controls)
Randall RM 50 -- Ecstasy Module
Randall RM 50 -- Tweed Bassman Module
Randall RM 50 "Mashall" Module
Randall RM 50 Fender Twin Module
Bad Cat Black Cat 30R
Mesa/Boogie Electra Dyne
Ugly Amps Ugly 18
Victoria Amps 35210
Fender Deluxe Reverb mid-60's Blackface (FMI)
Fryette Memphis 30
Vox AC-30 Early 60's (*** NOT PLUGGED INTO TEST CABINET)

CLASSIC TONE
Friedman Dirty Shirley
Reeves Super '78 50 Watt
Harry Joyce Custom 30
Ceriatone Plexi 100
Event Horizon 50 Watt
Event Horizon 100 Watt
Allyn Meyers Koncorde
Ugly Amps Whirley
Risson
Marshall '68 Plexi 50 watt (small head) used with Variac
Marshall Kerry King JCM 800
Marshall Vintage Modern 100 Watt with KT66 Tubes
Hiwatt Custom 100 (vintage)
Bogner Goldfinger 45 (stock)
Bogner Goldfinger 45 (hot rod)
Orange Rocker 30
Jet City 100 (stock)
Ugly 100
Line 6 DT 50 (Park 75 setting)
Line 6 DT 50 (class A setting)
South Bay Ampworks 50W Plexi
Orange Rockerverb 50
Marshall 100W ('79)
Greenleaf 35W

THE MOD SQUAD
Event Horizon 100W Hi Gain setting
Henning Plexrod 100W
Splawn Nitro
Splawn Quickrod
Surreal Hybrid 100
******* CCV
Marshall 100W Friedman Brown Eye Mod ('74)
Hughes & Kettner Trilogy
******* 75
Soldano SLO-100 (circa 1990)
Ceriatone Chupacabra 100
Wizard Modern Classic
Marshall 100W Super Tremolo Friedman Hairy Brown Eye/Kitchen Sink ('71)
Fortin Bones
Friedman (formerly "Marsha")
Marshall ******* (Aldridge)
Marshall (Jose)

LIQUID METAL
Mesa "Racto" Dual Rectifier (early rackmount version)
Mesa Dual Rectifier "Pre-500" vintage
Mesa/Boogie Mark V
Bogner Twin Jet
Bogner Uberschall
Bogner Twin Jet (Purple Mod crunch)
Bogner Solo 70 Twin Jet
Friedman Naked
Rhodes Colossus (crunch channel)
Rhodes Colossus (Hi Gain channel)
VHT Pittbull 50 CL
Diezel VH-4 (channel 3)
Marshall 100W Super Tremolo Friedman Hairy Brown Eye/Kitchen Sink (Hi Gain)
Friedman
Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mk II
Diezel Herbert
Holy Shit. :lol:
 

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I knew it! He bought the Reeves :lol:



Also, some outtake videos:


 

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...and the tones are up! Here it is, hundreds of thousands of dollars in amps, all compared to each other!

Mid Gain Central:


Classic Tone:


The Mod Squad:


And last (and probably the most relevant here):
LIQUID METAL!

 

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I was drooling over those Friedman amps (especially the Naked)....then I looked up the price. :( :lol:
The Friedman-modded Jet City JCA20s are pretty reasonable when it comes down to it.
 

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I can honestly say for High gain I loved the way the splawns sounded, both the QR and the Nitro, makes me think once I get my QR back i am going to have to play with it more on sounds.

The recto's of course needed a boost and they sounded kinda weak without one, but I know what they can sound like with one which is total bliss.
 

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Geezus, considering the hype surrounding this, that was quite underwhelming for the high gain portion of it
Just sounded like primarily rock guitarists who occasionally dabble in metal player, rather than guys that actually understand metal guitar.
That's the thing about guys that primarily play metal, they tend to usually understand rock guitar too, but quite often guys that mainly play rock just don't know how to do metal well.

Also, unboosted Recto FTL. Tubby palm mutes, not enough compression leads and just lacking in balls.
Dual/Triple Rectos/Roadsters/Roadkings are all damn amazing amps, but you're definitely not getting the most out of them for high gain sounds unless you've got that Tube Screamer action happening.

Mid gain stuff was better, because the playing seemed more in their element
 

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These guys are "metal" players in the sense that they play '80s-style metal dude. The "Mod Squad" is where most of them are really "home."

Remember, there's more to "metal" than GRRRNT-BZZZZ-GRRRNT-DJENT :D
 

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Well seeing as how I listen to metal from every decade and enjoy plenty of 80s metal, that wasn't my big problem with it.
What bothered me most was the fact it just didn't come across as a very professional shootout at all.
Sounded like guys that hadn't play guitar in a few weeks just piss farting around on whatever metal riffs came to mind, when it would have been a much better basis for comparison had they organized something more orderly than that.

When I think James Lugo, I'm thinking of tones that only guys like him with heaps of experience can capture. Ultimately, it's about feel, knowledge, skill and having an ear first and foremost, then comes the gear. James has all five of those.
Tones with very minimal crap in the high end, no tubbyness/woolyness in the lower mids, very controlled bass and a generally fairly even and nice sounding mid range. Stuff that slots straight into the mix with minimal EQ work and compression.
A lot of the tones on the video of the high gain section sound anything but that. A lot of tubbyness, fizzyness and not enough balls.
Honestly just really expected a lot better considering the name behind the shootout :shrug:

There are clips out there that are much more representative of how truly great Lugo is at capturing fantastic tones fortunately.
 

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James only EQ'd a handful of amps. He let everyone who brought amps dial them in themselves. He questions if that was a mistake, but you can't blame him for how most of those amps we're dialed in.
 
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