Completely agree Messiah was weak, but I found him to do 'well'on Nightfall. Maybe just, to it's credit, how great that album was. Thomas was very Notable on the followup.I dig Candlemass though. :lol: Not really a Messiah fan, and I was pretty stoked when Lowe replaced him, but IMO Solitude is the be all end all of doom bands. Especially on the early records when Lowe really belts it right the fuck out. What a voice.