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New 4x12. Made some impulses for you.

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Bit of a horror story with this one - It was about 90 mins drive from home to go pick this up. Because it's oversized I borrowed my dad's van which had some junk in the back. Plenty of room for the cab though.

I came to a junction about 30 minutes on the home stretch, had to make some evasive maneuvers, cab flipped over and something went straight through the grill cloth, and straight through one of the speakers. :scream:



It's only through the suspension surround, so I repaired it with some silicone and glue. Works fine now.
I bought it pretty cheap tbh, knowing it was already pretty beat up from touring. Also I plan to swap two of the V30's out for something else so not the end of the world, but still pretty shitty luck :lol:

Anyway, it's a Marshall MF280. These are one of those awesome secret bits of gear that not many people know about or pay attention to.



They're part of the Mode Four range, hence why nobody cares/knows about them, as that was a horrific amp that everybody universally hates on.

Little do people realise though that the cabs were amazing, and were basically Marshall's attempt at competing with Mesa.

As such, they're oversized, and fully ply wood, no MDF anywhere. Metal handles and corners too, VERY heavy and solid. Easily better than their flagship 1960's, by a mile.

Here it is next to a standard 1960AV



It's taller than the 1960 even without casters.

There were two version of this cab - The MF400 (which came with the Mode Four amp head) which has Celestion K-100 speakers in it. Then there's this, the MF280, which comes with Celestion "Marshall V-30's", which are V30's that have been pre-warmed at the factory, broken in, so they're a little smoother and darker (again, trying to compete with Mesa). But IMO, they're just V30's :shrug:

They do sound great though, and due to the cab's size and girth it does sound much deeper and less nasal than a standard 1960V.

And on that note, here are some impulses - https://www.dropbox.com/s/02vh824sgnb1n0a/Marshall MF280.rar?raw=1

Best speaker mic'd with a 57, on and off axis, through my JVM's power amp (EL34's).

Enjoy :metal:
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Assuming I can get any free time I'll give the IR a spin - thanks for that :yesway:.

I thought there was only one MF cab, cool to know there's two.
Thanks, man!

You posted a V30 IR a long time ago and I used that on everything for about 2-3 years.

I had no clue about those cabs, really wish I did because I've seen a few of them for sale for cheap over the last year.
Never knew about that cab. Interesting bit of history. Will definitely check out the IR when I get my “studio” reassembled. Thx!
I just tried the IR and it fucking riiiiips. I may have to keep it. :lol:

I remember having an MF280 awhile back. I didn't jive with it too much, but I was still bit of an idiot when it came to recording. Might have to give it another shot because legit, that IR is great.
killer find man! didn't know you could just repair a torn speaker like that. probably gives +1 to toan. neat! Can't wait to try the IR. Thanks a bunch!
killer find man! didn't know you could just repair a torn speaker like that. probably gives +1 to toan. neat!
If you use superglue it's the official Rocka Toan Mod ™ which makes all the difference.
I actually did superglue it initially :lol: Then I realised that superglue is brittle and it will fail over time, so I siliconed it too, since silicone is flexible and doesn't bond brittle like CA glue does.
K100s are my favorite. I have a quad in my 412. If you see a Mode 4 cab with them buy it. They are usually $2-300 at pawn shops in the US. The Mode 4 cabs are almost always great deals for the pittance they go for for the speakers alone.

A new quad of K100s runs over twice that.

Best all around speaker for metal Celestion makes.
BTW Matt, the K100s are just relabeled k85s, which were sort of an obscure 80s gem. Celestion has a habit of giving the same speaker like 4-5 different names.

The only other cabs they come stock in are Riveras. Only ones now, M4s are long discontinued. Rivera is obviously my favorite brand of amp, and that is the speaker their high gain stuff is designed to go with.

Not really a Slipknot enthusiast by any means, but you can hear what's going on here, great demonstration of what they are capable of. Any Marshall style amp into them fucking rules.

Yeah Mick (and Rivera) are big fans of high-powered speakers. Mick's sig Rivera was actually tuned using T-75's, which I think sound similar to the K100, but the K's aren't as scooped/hollow sounding.

I actually plan on getting an MF400B, since I prefer bottom cabs, and the MF280B barely ever comes up for sale, ever. The 400B is more common, and since they're the exact same cab besides speakers, I'll just take the two best V30s from this MF280A and put them in the 400 in an X-pattern.
Yeah Mick (and Rivera) are big fans of high-powered speakers. Mick's sig Rivera was actually tuned using T-75's, which I think sound similar to the K100, but the K's aren't as scooped/hollow sounding.

I actually plan on getting an MF400B, since I prefer bottom cabs, and the MF280B barely ever comes up for sale, ever. The 400B is more common, and since they're the exact same cab besides speakers, I'll just take the two best V30s from this MF280A and put them in the 400 in an X-pattern.
The K-100s were one of the many cases of Celestion discovering a speaker could handle more power than they advertised and upgrading the name. :lol:

You can also find the K-85s (aka K-100s) in like, late 80s Peavey Butcher cabs. Those are pretty affordable, though not that common over there probably.

I actually passed up buying a mode 4 with the quad of k-100s for $180 in a pawn shop and still regret it. I had three cabs at the time and didn't have space. Hidden treasures. People legitimately don't know the speakers in them are worth way more than what they go for used. Thing was fucking trashed though. A past owner had bolted one of those tacky wall mounted beer bottle openers to the side. :lol:
i can confirm these IRs are fucking beastly :flex:

Also i may be wrong but i think K100s are what Diezel uses in some of their cabs althogh they may now be mostly just v30.
Well Fuck.

Why is this so much better than the impulses I paid for?

Running these with the NDSP Fortin Cali at the moment and it slays.

Thank you!

Any others you would like to share to make me feel shitty about spending money on IR's?
Folks who've tried the IR (baby = newp) what style amps are you running?
RAR? Who RAR's these days?

:wub:
i can confirm these IRs are fucking beastly


Also i may be wrong but i think K100s are what Diezel uses in some of their cabs althogh they may now be mostly just v30.
Yeah, K100s was an option. I went the V30 route with mine but then snagged a cheap MF400 and X patterned both.
i can confirm these IRs are fucking beastly


Also i may be wrong but i think K100s are what Diezel uses in some of their cabs althogh they may now be mostly just v30.
Yeah, K100s was an option. I went the V30 route with mine but then snagged a cheap MF400 and X patterned both.
Would you say the k100s are better for diezel? What head was it a herbert? I have the hagen and dmoll but use a recto cab. Probably not going to buy another cab but id look for some more k100 IRs.
Well Fuck.

Why is this so much better than the impulses I paid for?

Running these with the NDSP Fortin Cali at the moment and it slays.

Thank you!

Any others you would like to share to make me feel shitty about spending money on IR's?
Yeah man I've made a few over the years. A lot of guys I know still rock my Zilla 2x12 one I made a few years back.

And on the point of paid-for IR's... It's difficult to say this without sounding like I'm tooting my own noodle, but the kind of guys who make IR packs and Kemper profiles and all the rest of it... they're not always the best engineers :shrug: That coupled with the fact that they just churn them out, so the pack you get has like 40 IR's, only about 3 of which are usable in a mix. Just makes it seem more value-for-money.

Lastly (Two Notes, I'm looking at you) quite a lot of them come pre-EQ'd. It's to give you that mix-ready wow-factor when you load them up into your project. That shit doesn't jive with me. It makes your amp sound/feel like it's reacting weirdly. It's also completely unnecessary as it's just not the way you engineer guitars for a mix. I leave my IR's raw, even if that means they can be a little fizzy or boomy. That's what 4x12's sound like, and you shave away the nasties as you mix, not whilst you're playing.
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