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And the presence knob is a power amp, not a preamp, function.
 

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In before the run through two 1x12 cabs for a Noodles size rig joke.
 

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Don't make me record a boring guitar video where I sit perfectly still and stare at my webcam with a smug, self-satisfied look.
 

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My favorite Mesa poweramp and second favorite (after the 112 Thiele with the EV12L) Mesa product period.
 

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Don't make me record a boring guitar video where I sit perfectly still and stare at my webcam with a smug, self-satisfied look.
You called?
 

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Did you replace the Carvin with this?

I've had three Mesa Power amps, and I had the 2:50, and they are definitely insanely nice., the 2:50 is my favorite power amp, in between the one you got and the 2:90 in terms of Mesa's offerings from that time period. And my top choice as far as power amps go.

But I'm not actually sure I could tell the sound of a Mesa Power amp apart from the less prestigious stuff like Carvins at home recording volumes. :lol:

Do you have 6l6s or EL-34s in there?

I actually just got a less prestigious ART Power Amp for my monitors. Which has like, zero cachet, even less than your Carvin, but it sounds as good as anything else if you aren't pushing huge amounts of volume. :lol:
 

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Also, you should swap those knobs out for the silver ones. The black ones don't announce "hey, look at this quality Mesa Power Amp" enough.

I think some of the 20/20s or 2:20s had them. There was also a straight up silverface variation which is pretty cool.



I like the older ones like the 50/50 too, but those don't look as prestigious as the ones in the 2:x era.

The downside of owning any Mesa Power Amp that isn't a 2:90 is that very shortly people that do own 2:90s will come in and tell you, "Well, it's pretty cool, but it's not a 2:90. I don't know why you would get a Mesa Power Amp and not get a 2:90."

If you own a Mesa Power Amp that's not a 2:90, it's just an open invitation for 2:90 owners to come and tell you that your gear is cute, but somewhat inadequate.
 

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You gonna run in sweet sweet stero through separate cabs?
The other side of my "studio" is a pack & play for my 2 year old, so no. :lol: Plan is to set it up for maximum laziness - Axe-Fx in one channel, Kemper in the other so that I don't have to swap cables when I switch preamps.

I won't really use this all that much, but wanted one for quite a while. I had an ebay alert setup for it and it's the first one I'd seen in a long time. Stoked. :yesway:
 

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Did you replace the Carvin with this?
Yeah.

But I'm not actually sure I could tell the sound of a Mesa Power amp apart from the less prestigious stuff like Carvins at home recording volumes. :lol:
You can't tell the difference between a tube power amp and a solid state power amp just by listening? What the hell kind of audiophile are you? I'm not even a big tube guy and I could tell right away.

I actually just got a less prestigious ART Power Amp for my monitors. Which has like, zero cachet, even less than your Carvin, but it sounds as good as anything else if you aren't pushing huge amounts of volume. :lol:
That Carvin is still rad as fuck. It's light as hell, super loud and has a button on it that basically emulates the resonance knob on a 5150/6505. It sounds great, I just wanted something a bit more tube-y and since my shit never leaves my office, I don't give a fuck how light something is. :lol:

It's also silent, something I wish the 20:20 was. :lol:
 

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Those are seriously cool power amps. I knew a guy who had a rack bag with one of those and the rackmount V-Twin, and it was the perfect portable rig.
 

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Nicely done.

I thought this was about a second child being named "mesa" at first :lol:
 

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Yeah.

You can't tell the difference between a tube power amp and a solid state power amp just by listening? What the hell kind of audiophile are you? I'm not even a big tube guy and I could tell right away.

That Carvin is still rad as fuck. It's light as hell, super loud and has a button on it that basically emulates the resonance knob on a 5150/6505. It sounds great, I just wanted something a bit more tube-y and since my shit never leaves my office, I don't give a fuck how light something is. :lol:

It's also silent, something I wish the 20:20 was. :lol:
Should have stuck with the 5150. The biggest con to Mesa products is you have to talk with other Mesa fanatics.

The most insufferable fanbase of any gear brand. Period. I've sold Mesa gear just because I fucking hate hearing people talk about Mesa gear. From the "everyone will offer you an unabridged history of Mesa amps the second you start talking about them" to the "discussing Rectifiers in hushed tones of reverence in spite of not knowing what the fuck a Rectifier even is" to "the classic game of Mesa one up manship" (I actually just pulled that on you, getting in early on the "My mesa power amp that I don't own anymore is cooler than yours" before Crooks and the other guys with huge Mesa rigs show up) to the "the EQ isn't like a regular amp, YOU HAVE TO EQ WITH YOUR HEART, NOT YOUR PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF TONE".

Like, it still has fucking three knobs dude. I'm not training to be a fucking Jedi Knight. Just because the bass isn't meant to be on noon doesn't mean it's automatically the most advanced thing ever. It's even worse on the models with the GEQ. "YOU HAVE TO DO WEIRD STUFF WITH THE MAIN EQ AND REVERSE IT WITH THE GEQ, IT'S THE HIDDEN PATH OF MESA". People act like Mesa controls are ancient mysterious knowledge like the fucking dead sea scrolls or something.

And who can forget the classic "Mesa amps are so advanced they don't need pedals up front. Ever. A Pedal is sacrilege." creed. A sentiment that mysteriously changed the second Mesa started releasing overpriced variations of common pedals.

To your guys credit you aren't the most pretentious Mesa fans I know, although Jeff is close (although I haven't seen him around lately), up in Montana there is one of the biggest and most prestigious Mesa dealerships in the US and it's unbearable. My old band was even more hardcore in terms of Mesa fanaticism. We had like, an intensive and heated band meeting on the subject of whether we should both set our amps to spongy or only one of us could be the spongy one. Before I showed up, their old rig was each 3/4 Mesa stacks, and each guitarist had the other guitarists recto 2/12 under their 4/12 for some weird fucking reason so there would be maximum Mesa cohesiveness because there is no such thing as too many Mesa products on stage. Unsurprisingly they abandoned that one, as no one could tell what the fuck was going on.

I remember when the Mark V came out and I tried to order one and it was like Night at the Fucking Roxbury, they were just like, "Sorry dude, I don't care if you have the money, this is backordered for like a fucking year and you aren't on the list".

Also, I can't count the number of times I've been presented with a Mesa transferable warranty that is well past the five years effective date and the person bestowing it upon me acts like I am being knighted by the queen of fucking england. Mesa is the only product where you will always get asked if you have "the papers". Like, you know that's only good for five years or whatever, right?

Also, if you suggest that any brand has a higher build quality than Mesa, or bigger transformers, Mesa fans will automatically go on a rant about how it is literally impossible that anything could ever have higher build quality or bigger transformers than a Mesa because Mesa are built to military spec, the military spec of aliens from the 41st century. Any other gear that advertises it is built to military spec is lying. Including gear actually made by the military.

I mean, Mesa stuff is nice, but I give it like, three posts after this one before the full on Mesa cult ritual kicks in. Dave is going to swoop in pretty soon and start seriously suggesting that we should abolish the B.C./A.D. system of human record keeping and make year zero the year the Rectifier was first available to the public and go for a B.R./A.R. system.

*Their wheeled casters are legitimately the fucking best though.
 
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