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This is impressive as hell.

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I would never, ever want to intentionally listen to this type of music but man it's cool to watch this dude play. :lol:
might as well by a machine gun at that point
I would never, ever want to intentionally listen to this type of music
Grow a pair ya pus.
thats my buddy spencer. he's a dedicated drummer. i'm stoked his band is doing so good.

https://archspire.bandcamp.com/
Grow a pair ya pus.
I don't like listening to Rusty Cooley either. This is the same thing. Impressive as hell but unlistenable IMO.
thats my buddy spencer. he's a dedicated drummer. i'm stoked his band is doing so good.

https://archspire.bandcamp.com/
yep. all really cool guys. they're really blowing up lately; it's awesome.
Granted I don't pay a lot of attention to drummers, but that technique in the second video - I don't ever remember seeing that before. Where his left drumstick seems to pivot on the edge/frame of the drum. Just looks weird, but impressive.
Yeah I enjoy this type of stuff when they implement more grooves between the madness but only for a short burst of songs before it gets old. Still amazing to watch and I'm glad these guys are doing it.
Granted I don't pay a lot of attention to drummers, but that technique in the second video - I don't ever remember seeing that before. Where his left drumstick seems to pivot on the edge/frame of the drum. Just looks weird, but impressive.
Are you talking about ghost notes on the snare?
Are you talking about ghost notes on the snare?
I think he means the gravity blast beats - impressive stuff. these guys remind me a bit of cryptopsy with all the changes.
I think he means the gravity blast beats - impressive stuff. these guys remind me a bit of cryptopsy with all the changes.
I remember around 2008 working with Eleven59's drummer at a call center, and he would start doing gravity blasts with a pencil on our bus ride home. Fucker. :lol:
Granted I don't pay a lot of attention to drummers, but that technique in the second video - I don't ever remember seeing that before. Where his left drumstick seems to pivot on the edge/frame of the drum. Just looks weird, but impressive.
It's called a "gravity blast". My old drummer was working on learning to do it.

This is neat, but all of this kind of playing is basically just marching rudiments played across a whole kit, and learning to play fast with one hand. Anyone can learn to do it, it just takes a lot of practice.
I remember around 2008 working with Eleven59's drummer at a call center, and he would start doing gravity blasts with a pencil on our bus ride home. Fucker. :lol:
Yeah, what you said :lol: He never ended up using them in a song, because there was never a time where it sounded better than a regular blast.
It's called a "gravity blast". My old drummer was working on learning to do it.

This is neat, but all of this kind of playing is basically just marching rudiments played across a whole kit, and learning to play fast with one hand. Anyone can learn to do it, it just takes a lot of practice.
I agree with this to a point. Anyone can probably get to a certain level of most muscle memory activity by just committing to a crazy practice routine but I dont think natural talent can be denied here. The archspire drummer is probably better than the likes of George Kollias, Derek Roddy etc at this very specific type of stop starty chaotic tech death drumming and those guys have been on the planet probably over a decade longer than he has and had many more hours spent practicing.
Archspire just got nominated for a Juno for best metal/hard rock album this year for Relentless Mutation

2018 METAL/HARD MUSIC ALBUM | Archspire | The JUNO Awards

ARCHSPIRE exploded onto the scene in the year 2009. The band grew out of the rich progressive side of the Canadian extreme metal scene that nurtured their predecessors VOIVOD, GORGUTS, CRYPTOPSY, BEYOND CREATION and more before them.

They set out to take the style to the next level, and their first two albums and tours saw them gain widespread international recognition in the technical metal community and beyond.

With their brand new album 'Relentless Mutation', ARCHSPIRE push the limits of extreme metal even further than before. 'Relentless Mutation' is supreme technical death metal colliding with the future at warp speed. The complexity and fluidity of the compositions is astonishing, and sees the ascendant band truly come into their own. 'Relentless Mutation' is the death metal record of 2017, and sees ARCHSPIRE emerge as one of the genre's apex predators.
I agree with this to a point. Anyone can probably get to a certain level of most muscle memory activity by just committing to a crazy practice routine but I dont think natural talent can be denied here. The archspire drummer is probably better than the likes of George Kollias, Derek Roddy etc at this very specific type of stop starty chaotic tech death drumming and those guys have been on the planet probably over a decade longer than he has and had many more hours spent practicing.
Yeah, but they probably haven't been practicing the specific kind of drumming he's doing. It's all about specialization. A world class jazz drummer won't be able to do what he's doing, but this guy might be rusty as hell at jazz and incapable of loosening up (could be wrong, he might practice both styles, just a random example).

I will concede that it takes a certain amount of natural inclination and talent, and some people can't ever get there due to limitations of their physical abilities.

I just know I was able to play stuff in Terrorhorse that I never thought possible for my hands because I was practicing and playing all the time. It took no time at all for me to get rusty. You want to play like this, you're an athlete, and you have to stay in shape.
ITT: Aaron is unimpressed by drumming at 350BPM
I'm really not interested in Archspire or bands like them musically, but yeah, this dude is stupid good. He's fun to watch if nothing else.


These dudes are SCREWED if he ever decides to leave the band.
ITT: Aaron is unimpressed by drumming at 350BPM
Not unimpressed. Just didn't find it very musical. It's physically and technically impressive, there was just never a moment that stuck out as being clever or creative. Just not my thing.
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