[stealthtastic]

I'm not looking for help dude, stop offering me innovative and clever suggestions todays youth provide. :lol:

Sure no problem!

 

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:lol:

 

[AcidWing]

Depends. What kind of tuna is it?

 

[1]

Albacore, noob.

 

[Reverend 7 Strings of Hate]

try putting a banana on your head and squeeze a bottle of maple syrup on to the ground whilst eating a large pickle with the other hand

 

[stealthtastic]

Wirelessly posted (A Destroyer of short people: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

That's what we do around here to make water appear.

 

[cadenhead]

I always record scratch guitars to a click, do all my arranging (oh, how I love Pro Tools' Shuffle mode), then program drums to the scratch guitars, so that I can record my final guitars to the drums, making them tighter, rather than trying to shift the drums around my playing.

^This.

I record everything to a click first. Being that I'm mainly a rythem player, I can record each riff seperately then throw em in FL Studio as samples to arrange the song. Then I either program the drums or record the MIDI from my electronic kit. After that, I'll re-record my guitar tracks.

Gold.

 

[cadenhead]

Oops...

 

[Naren]

When I write a riff that I really like, I usually have accompanying drums for it in my head, so I kinda have to program them in order to record the guitar parts. And, if it's in an odd time signature, straight up 4/4 isn't gonna work. And, if it's heavily syncopated 4/4, it's gonna feel really awkward trying to record to a typical 4/4 drum beat. Of course, I could still record just by getting the accents where they should be and not going any further than that.

So, generally when I write the guitar riff, I want to program the drums I'm imagining in my head quickly. It's rare for me to have a guitar riff with no idea how the drums should go. Although... for my band, oftentimes the drummer will change the drums to something very very different from what I imagined that I listen to and go, ".................................................... That's.................. FUCKING AWESOME!!!!" and stuff.

 

[7deadlysins]

:lol: Because I'm arranging the song dude. Have you ever actually recorded a track before? You don't just plop down and bang the whole thing out in one sitting. You have to write and arrange it first, and see what works and what doesn't.

Why the hell would I use guitar pro? :facepalm:

Actually, I use guitar pro for writing my drums, sometimes keys, and also for composition. Lately I will only write out the drum and/or keyboard parts in guitar pro and just play along however there are MANY times i've written whole songs in guitar pro and used guitar pro to arrange the song and try different ideas for harmonies and solos and whatnot.... here's what you can do with guitar pro:
SoundClick artist: Chris Stoffel - page with MP3 music downloads

This is an old song and the mix isn't spectacular but I composed the whole song in guitar pro and then exported the drums and keys to MIDI to use with DKFH and Reason 4.

 

[stealthtastic]

There you go :fawk:

 

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There you go :fawk:

Are you planning on keeping up the 100:1 shit post to good post ratio you've had lately? :squint:

 

[zepp]

:lol: Because I'm arranging the song dude. Have you ever actually recorded a track before? You don't just plop down and bang the whole thing out in one sitting. You have to write and arrange it first, and see what works and what doesn't.

Why the hell would I use guitar pro? :facepalm:

All of Withersoul's music was written using guitar pro FWIW. It's a great tool.

 

[stealthtastic]

Are you planning on keeping up the 100:1 shit post to good post ratio you've had lately? :squint:

Can't sustain it, spring breaks over, my post quality will be going up now because school started again today :lol:

 

[jaxadam]

When I write a riff that I really like, I usually have accompanying drums for it in my head, so I kinda have to program them in order to record the guitar parts.

That's pretty much how I am. At first, I could never have imagined recording drums first, but now I just try to program them for what I've already got in mind as far as guitar goes.

I guess I kind of "record" the guitar in my mind, then record the drums I think will go along with it, then go back and add the guitar layers back over the initial drum track. By that point the song has changed, because I've inevitably fucked something up because I couldn't memorize that much!

 

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That's all well and good if you can write drums. I definitely can not. :lol: I start with a pattern from DKFH/etc that's close to what I'm playing, play to that and the click, and then go back after and tailor the beat to my guitar track.

If I started out with just drums, it would suck a LOT. :lol:

 

[AcidWing]

honestly, I don't write drums....ever. I'm lucky enough to know a great drummer....but he's across the country. So until I can throw my mixes over to him, they always sound like ass :lol:

 

[Matt Johnsen]

I rarely, move on to riff number 2 before riff number 1 has a drum beat, because as far as I'm concerned, the beat is a way more important factor in how a song flows than the riff. I mean, I think the riff itself it more interesting, but until I know the exact cadence of the part, I can't be sure what should come next.

Then again, by the time I work on arrangement, I usually have a pretty full grabbag of riffs written. I don't sit around to write songs - I noodle out riffs and record the ones that I like to a click track. When I don't have any inspiration, I'll go back to old riffs and work on drum beats for them. And then when it comes time to write songs for a Pharaoh album, I rifle through the riffpile and find the ones I like, marry them to others in the same key/tempo, and go from there. When I need to start filling in the holes in a song, I use the drums to guide me in the right direction, and at that juncture, sometimes a drum beat will precede its riff.

But yeah, your advice is good - don't create an unbreakable association between a bad beat and your riff, or you'll never be able to come up with a more appropriate beat!

 

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I rarely, move on to riff number 2 before riff number 1 has a drum beat, because as far as I'm concerned, the beat is a way more important factor in how a song flows than the riff. I mean, I think the riff itself it more interesting, but until I know the exact cadence of the part, I can't be sure what should come next.

Then again, by the time I work on arrangement, I usually have a pretty full grabbag of riffs written. I don't sit around to write songs - I noodle out riffs and record the ones that I like to a click track. When I don't have any inspiration, I'll go back to old riffs and work on drum beats for them. And then when it comes time to write songs for a Pharaoh album, I rifle through the riffpile and find the ones I like, marry them to others in the same key/tempo, and go from there. When I need to start filling in the holes in a song, I use the drums to guide me in the right direction, and at that juncture, sometimes a drum beat will precede its riff.

But yeah, your advice is good - don't create an unbreakable association between a bad beat and your riff, or you'll never be able to come up with a more appropriate beat!

That's exactly what I do, and how I feel about it. :yesway: