[beneharris]

Probably really recognizable by the crooked side dots.

 

[beneharris]

I love that he took the time to add the super-dramatic intro graphic to the video. :lol: Guitar thieves can fuck right off either way, but this sounds like bullshit.

It's 40 grand, and they have the FBI involved? Not the local police? Hate to be that guy but this smells like marketing to me.

I thought the graphic at the beginning was amazing, too. :lol: LIKE ZOGM GUYS THIS IS SEEEEEWWWWWW IMPURTENT. pUT TEH 30 SECOND GRAFIC THERE SO OUR CUSTOMERZ KNEW HOO IT IZ.

And then he proceeds to say oh hai, tis jeff from keisel, and carvin guitars. with a keisel shirt on.

 

[beneharris]

Anyways, point is. Even if the robbery was real, they have business insurance, and they will be compensated for the value of their guitars. The reason for telling the public is publicity.

There was one guy on facebook that said "he would investigate" :lol:

This definitely, should leave a bad taste in anybody's mouth who thinks about it any further than what Jeff is saying.

 

[beneharris]

It was dubious from the beginning, but when he turned it into a sweepstakes with, "If you have info leading to their recovery I will build you the Kiesel of your dreams" believability went right out the window.

At this point he's just insulting everyone's intelligence.

I seriously think the graphic was what did it for me. If it was such a huge deal that he had to get on camera and tell everybody, they didn't need to put a 30 second graphic and make everybody wait :lol:

 

[beneharris]

Hey, it worked for Ozzy and Sinead O'Connor, why can't Jeff get in on the act?

:rofl:

 

[beneharris]

Fuck this makes me want to burn my Carvins.

Yeah, me too, lol :lol:

That is absolutely crazy. In what world was that original video appropriate, especially considering this. My God :lol:

 

[beneharris]

lifted from /7/ but too good not to share. Even with the actual info released this still somehow seems accurate to describe the situation.

No, at this point its more like:

 

[beneharris]

So basically, they weren't robbed, they were defrauded, internationally, which is always always a risk, and they go public making it seem like someone robbed the showroom, even mentioned how they have security cameras, etc, all so they could get some sympathy orders to offset the losses of being ripped off for the cost of 16 guitars? Am I reading this right?

Yes, you're reading that exactly right.

 

[beneharris]

I have to hand it to Engage, he managed to fuck up Carvin in a hurry. :lol: The dude is nothing if not consistent.

With anybody else, you'd probably be wrong. But with him, you know, you just have to know, he is the devil on Jeff's shoulder telling him to do stupid shit like post that first video. "Oh and make sure it has the totally awesome graphics on it too, I'm the social media manager, I know people will love that."

 

[beneharris]

Wirelessly posted (iBrone)

That, and "nothing bad ever comes from lying about things"

:lol:

Yup, pretty much :lol:

"I've done this so many times, and look where it got me!" I'm sure is his favorite phrase.

 

[beneharris]

I think the management meeting went something like this:

Baha, that is so perfect. :lol:

 

[beneharris]

While their guitars were assuredly stolen, they're also almost certainly not going to show up in a pawn shop, which was the nominal purpose of this video. This is pure bullshit.

Not to mention his little song and dance about how violated they all feel. That was what really made it sound like a burglary. That really makes it sound like somebody came into their "home" and stole something.

 

[beneharris]

LOL. here is their response to the sso thread:

Say whatever you want, as is obviously going on, but that "Bull.... marketing stunt video" or whatever else people are saying it is? Led to the tip that is helping the authorities get the guitars back.

 

[beneharris]

I call bullshit. How would anyone outside of the transaction have any knowledge about a container load of guitars going overseas?

Yeah, it is total crap. :lol:

 

[beneharris]

btw, is Engage their /7/-posting PR guy? Because that's almost as ridiculous as the whole James Hetfield's Signature guitar in nana's pantry nonsense, or whatever insane story he cobbled together about that ESP. :lol:

Yeah, guy is an idiot. But everyone knows that already :lol:

 

[beneharris]

Wait, did a check bounce, or was there an actual thief? If someone stiffed them on a wire transfer, why would they need to be "led right to" the guy? If I bounce a check to Darren, he has a pretty good idea who the culprit is. :lol:

Yeah, really. It just doesn't add up :lol: But the authorities told them to be shady about it, so its okay. :lol:

 

[beneharris]

holy crap :lol:

 

[beneharris]

You're going to get caught

Well said, Jeff :lol:

 

[beneharris]

Still can't believe they pulled advertising over a few bad NGD threads when there are still so many rabid fanbois over there.

How is everybody so surprised that their social media presence is utter shit? Seriously, go google Engage's threads. They're insane. And he's the guy running their social media. That is why they are acting like tards, because it is him.

 

[beneharris]

Oh, believe me, I know about Engage's shenanigans. Just wondering how he convinced anyone above him that was a good idea.

Ahh, Gotcha. :yesway:

Rocka, if you had just ordered Keisel instead of Warmoth, we'd all have your back on this one. :flex: