[noodles]

Jason, are you REALLY defending steroid use? Come on, man... :spock:

 

[105]

I can tell you first hand that 'roid rage is real. I am generally speaking extremely laid back. It takes a lot to get me angry, or even worked up a bit. However the few times I've taken steroids I have been angry at everything for no reason.

 

[noodles]

The main reason their is no conclusive roid rage studies is due to insufficient participants. No real surprise, considering that the most common use is illegal.

This just in: marijuana increasing your appetite is just a myth.

 

[Jason]

Jason, are you REALLY defending steroid use? Come on, man... :spock:

In a sense yes.

I can tell you first hand that 'roid rage is real. I am generally speaking extremely laid back. It takes a lot to get me angry, or even worked up a bit. However the few times I've taken steroids I have been angry at everything for no reason.

Anabolic steroids or for fighting off infections and shit?

The main reason their is no conclusive roid rage studies is due to insufficient participants. No real surprise, considering that the most common use is illegal.

This just in: marijuana increasing your appetite is just a myth.

Think about it. We are told steroids are bad and they will do all this awful shit to you.

If you are a healthy adult and take them they are bad BUT if you have a wasting disease or aids or something and they give you steroids its good for you. :spock:

Same thing with weed. We all know the bad spin it gets yet if you have some medical problem weed is good for you?

I am generalsing here but same idea.

Also that is like saying drinking alcohol will make you go home and beat your wife and kids. Does this happen when some people drink? Sure is it happen to all people? Nope. Sometimes those things just amplify the persons personality.

 

[noodles]

I'm not talking about approved, medical uses for steroids. I'm talking about the athletes that juice themselves up. Who knows where they get them, what dosage they use, and how often they take them.

It's not like these rumors come out of thin air. Yes, marijuana often gets a bad rap, but think about the nature of the negative connotations: you'll become a burnout, drop out of school, eat too much, get fat, do nothing all day, and waste your life away. Guess what? I know heads like that. Sure, I know guys who smoke recreationally and live healthy, productive lives, but I have also know the burnouts, as I am sure you have.

Bottom line: injecting testosterone into your body, without medical supervision, is a really stupid idea, and is bound to have negative consequences.

 

[Jason]

I'm not talking about approved, medical uses for steroids. I'm talking about the athletes that juice themselves up. Who knows where they get them, what dosage they use, and how often they take them.

It's not like these rumors come out of thin air. Yes, marijuana often gets a bad rap, but think about the nature of the negative connotations: you'll become a burnout, drop out of school, eat too much, get fat, do nothing all day, and waste your life away. Guess what? I know heads like that. Sure, I know guys who smoke recreationally and live healthy, productive lives, but I have also know the burnouts, as I am sure you have.

Bottom line: injecting testosterone into your body, without medical supervision, is a really stupid idea, and is bound to have negative consequences.

Yep. Stereotypes exist for a reason. I am not saying juice heads dont exist. I am just maintaing the fact is it doesnt turn you into a monster. I think people just use that as an excuse.

Just like anything there is big chances for abuse so like anything else you had better know what you are doing and getting blood work done is a very good idea. I think like anything else anything done with a lil thought and common sense you will be fine.

 

[noodles]

Yep. Stereotypes exist for a reason. I am not saying juice heads dont exist. I am just maintaing the fact is it doesnt turn you into a monster. I think people just use that as an excuse.

When people talk about roid rage, they're imagining some juiced up monster who is yelling at everyone in site and beating his girlfriend in front of everyone at the gym, not the teenager going to their doctor with a pituitary gland malfunction. I don't think people are using it as excuse; I think some people massively abuse it and it, like any other drug that is abused, effects their emotional stability in a very real way.

 

[Jason]

Sure. Also just like weed. There are people in the middle ground. I know plenty of people who are on and act normal of not happier while on.

When people talk about roid rage, they're imagining some juiced up monster who is yelling at everyone in site and beating his girlfriend in front of everyone at the gym, not the teenager going to their doctor with a pituitary gland malfunction. I don't think people are using it as excuse; I think some people massively abuse it and it, like any other drug that is abused, effects their emotional stability in a very real way.

 

[Seanbabs]

Does this mean that soccer players can choke our referees?

 

[Jason]

Does this mean that soccer players can choke our referees?

Nope. That wasn't cool. :noway:

 

[Daemon Barbeque]

Steroids are such a broad group of chemicals used by broad group of individuals. Testosterone (known as sustanon) makes testosterone effected behavior stronger. the idiot males get more aggressive, the normal guys stay normal. it might bring a normal guy to react faster, or get angry faster, but it doesn't make a normal guy violent.

Other Steroids have different effects, but none of them can be accused for making someone aggressive. Actually, the pain and the adrenalin caused by pain and high performance sports cause more aggression.

I am not a fan of steroids in any form, and I have to fight and repair damage on Horses done by steroids. But it's hard to tell whether they are the cause of aggression or not.

 

[Buzz]

This just in: marijuana increasing your appetite is just a myth.

I know what you were getting at with this comment, but as opposed to steroid usage, there are actually peer-reviewed studies about the hunger-inducing effect of marijuana. It's actually a very common reason for people to receive medical marijuana in rehab/nursing facilities.

Steroids are such a broad group of chemicals used by broad group of individuals. Testosterone (known as sustanon) makes testosterone effected behavior stronger. the idiot males get more aggressive, the normal guys stay normal. it might bring a normal guy to react faster, or get angry faster, but it doesn't make a normal guy violent.

Other Steroids have different effects, but none of them can be accused for making someone aggressive. Actually, the pain and the adrenalin caused by pain and high performance sports cause more aggression.

I am not a fan of steroids in any form, and I have to fight and repair damage on Horses done by steroids. But it's hard to tell whether they are the cause of aggression or not.

There are thousands of people who would probably disagree with you as they depend on a very common steroid, salbutamol (aka albuterol), to stay alive. Cortisone, another common steroid, is often used to suppress the immune system in organ transplant recipients, reduce pain-causing swelling in joints, and to treat symptoms caused by the epstein-barr virus.

You made a good point that there's many different steroids with many different uses, but then make a sweeping statement about them :spock:.

 

[Soopahmahn]

You made a good point that there's many different steroids with many different uses, but then make a sweeping statement about them :spock:.

I think he meant recreational steroids.

 

[Seanbabs]

Holy shit I didn't mean for my steroid joke to open up this rabbit hole

My brother is on steroids, and I am so glad he is. It suppresses his immune system and alleviates his multiple sclerosis attacks. If he didn't get on them, he could be blind and crippled in less than a year.

I thought testosterone based drugs were human growth hormone (HGH), not steroids, but maybe I am mis-informed or splitting hairs.

 

[Soopahmahn]

Holy shit I didn't mean for my steroid joke to open up this rabbit hole

This forum is srs bsns. Get used to it. :squint: :hsquid:

 

[Buzz]

I think he meant recreational steroids.

I think he did too, but broad statements like that are what often give all steroids a bad name. Nobody would have a second thought when they hear somebody is on Ventolin for their asthma, but the moment someone says they take steroids, they get branded as some doped-up beast.

By the way, albuterol/salbutamol still gets atheletes banned for it's use. It's on the WADA's prohibited list (the list that is used by the Olympics).

 

[Jason]

I think he meant recreational steroids.

Yeah. There is a difference between my inhaler for asthma and aas.

Holy shit I didn't mean for my steroid joke to open up this rabbit hole

My brother is on steroids, and I am so glad he is. It suppresses his immune system and alleviates his multiple sclerosis attacks. If he didn't get on them, he could be blind and crippled in less than a year.

I thought testosterone based drugs were human growth hormone (HGH), not steroids, but maybe I am mis-informed or splitting hairs.

They are different. Anabolic steroids affects testosterone and hgh affects growth hormones.

 

[Seanbabs]

This forum is srs bsns. Get used to it. :squint: :hsquid:

I don't understand the humbolt squid thing either :squint:

Can somebody enlighten me? :yesway:

 

[Buzz]

I thought testosterone based drugs were human growth hormone (HGH), not steroids, but maybe I am mis-informed or splitting hairs.

*puts on the biochem hat*

The title steroid is used to describe an organic compound with a specific arrangement of 17 carbon atoms into four rings joined to each other. There is a cyclopentane ring, and 3 cyclohexane rings. Testosterone fits the description, and is therefore a steroid.

 

[Seanbabs]

*puts on the biochem hat*

The title steroid is used to describe an organic compound with a specific arrangement of 17 carbon atoms into four rings joined to each other. There is a cyclopentane ring, and 3 cyclohexane rings. Testosterone fits the description, and is therefore a steroid.

Oh thanks! I tried to rep you but I must have yesterday cause it won't let me.

Yeah I never had to take organic chemistry or even p-chem so I didn't learn them shits :noway: