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Good for them! I hope Tesla will be around for a LONG time.
I hope they're around long enough to make cars that I can actually afford. :lol:

With Fisker going out of business, they pretty much have their market share wrapped up.
 

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Word is they're working on a mid-size "entry level" model in the $40k range. Even at its base price of $62k, the Model S is a bargain if you're in the market for a large sedan. That's right between a BMW 5 Series and 7 Series.
 

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I expect to see a lot of these in my neighborhood. There's already a few, but with all the German luxo-barges around in that price range I'd expect to see more.
 

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I don't know anything about cars or car companies, but they get a thumbs up for financial responsibility. :yesway:
 

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I'd love to see the first decently affordable electric vehicle capable of hauling gear. Imagine how much easier touring (or any job involving hauling equipment or any other large goods) would be if all you had to do was plug in your van when you're stopped.
 

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I'd love to see the first decently affordable electric vehicle capable of hauling gear. Imagine how much easier touring (or any job involving hauling equipment or any other large goods) would be if all you had to do was plug in your van when you're stopped.
Once you've found a charging station. :lol:

We have a bunch of them in front of the lab building I work in. Nobody uses them, because the company that owns them (Chargepoint) throws in a gigantic upcharge.

They're billed at $2.50/hour. A Prius plug-in requires a 1.5 hour charge, so it would cost $3.75 to go at most 12-15 miles. The average rate for a kWatt Hour is around .15 cents, and a Prius charges at 2.25 kWatt Hours, or around 33 cents per hour.

So the charging stations would have that Prius charged for $3.75 out of pocket - for $0.50 in electric costs - or about a 750% profit margin.
 

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I'd love to see the first decently affordable electric vehicle capable of hauling gear. Imagine how much easier touring (or any job involving hauling equipment or any other large goods) would be if all you had to do was plug in your van when you're stopped.
Actually, if you weren't traveling super-long distances, the Model S would be great if you added a hitch. Seats five, hatch in the back, and all the torque is available almost immediately.
 

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I'd love to see the first decently affordable electric vehicle capable of hauling gear. Imagine how much easier touring (or any job involving hauling equipment or any other large goods) would be if all you had to do was plug in your van when you're stopped.
Once you've found a charging station. :lol:

We have a bunch of them in front of the lab building I work in. Nobody uses them, because the company that owns them (Chargepoint) throws in a gigantic upcharge.

They're billed at $2.50/hour. A Prius plug-in requires a 1.5 hour charge, so it would cost $3.75 to go at most 12-15 miles. The average rate for a kWatt Hour is around .15 cents, and a Prius charges at 2.25 kWatt Hours, or around 33 cents per hour.

So the charging stations would have that Prius charged for $3.75 out of pocket - for $0.50 in electric costs - or about a 750% profit margin.
Well, yeah :lol:
 

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I'd love to see the first decently affordable electric vehicle capable of hauling gear. Imagine how much easier touring (or any job involving hauling equipment or any other large goods) would be if all you had to do was plug in your van when you're stopped.
Actually, if you weren't traveling super-long distances, the Model S would be great if you added a hitch. Seats five, hatch in the back, and all the torque is available almost immediately.
As long as you can get enough miles between charges with all that weight to get from city to city.
 

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Well, that's gross margin, not what they actually make after developing and deploying the charge stations, billing infrastructure, etc. Good for them for taking a run at building out the concept, but it's gonna be a tough business model.

Personally, i'd love to see Tesla partner with McDonald's or Starbucks to put SuperChargers at every location. Instant infrastructure!
 

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Well, that's gross margin, not what they actually make after developing and deploying the charge stations, billing infrastructure, etc. Good for them for taking a run at building out the concept, but it's gonna be a tough business model.

Personally, i'd love to see Tesla partner with McDonald's or Starbucks to put SuperChargers at every location. Instant infrastructure!
McCharge!
 

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Word is they're working on a mid-size "entry level" model in the $40k range. Even at its base price of $62k, the Model S is a bargain if you're in the market for a large sedan. That's right between a BMW 5 Series and 7 Series.
Elon said it should be somewhere in the 30ks when he was interviewed at TED
 

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Well, that's gross margin, not what they actually make after developing and deploying the charge stations, billing infrastructure, etc. Good for them for taking a run at building out the concept, but it's gonna be a tough business model.
They've been there for about 6 months now, and I have never once seen a car plugged into them. :lol: It's one thing to offer a service and make a profit. It's quite another to offer a service at a ~750% upcharge and expect it to work.
 

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