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When Reviews aren't favorable to Company's (Toneforge Misha Mansoor)

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Let's not forget, this is the dude who was such a douche, and whose following/fanboys were such a nuisance that the guys in the Sneap forum made him his own forum, and MADE him moderate it, just to keep that shit separate and away from everything else as much as possible :lol:
 
This is Kardashian-levels waste of time/space/energy/molecules/oxygen/history. Can we please, please ignore this type of horseshit from here on out? We've got riffs to write and gear to pine over.
 
I agree with that completely when it comes to most youtube video bullshit (still haven't watched the video in the OP, for example), but in this case I agree with Josh:

What I'm getting from this isn't oh, I should feel sorry for youtube guy and go subscribe to his channel, it's Sturgis responds to people posting negative reviews of his products by abusing the law to have them removed.
Agreed that there's a legal angle to this, and it's highlighted a major abuse of power that transcends the specifics of the subject matter, so that makes it marginally more interesting/important (because it's now just an exercise in copyright law) but my irreverence for it comes from the fact that it's rooted in such a perpetually fucking cancerous genre. If it's not plug-ins it's ridiculous luthier debacles, or pedal companies, or just whatever... and sensationalising these infinitesimally unimportant online cat-fights and shining a light on them like they matter... I can't abide that shit. It's petty nonsense and the way it's broadcast is like it has A-list celebrity status, and even THEN I find it fucking abhorrent that people pay attention to it (hence the Kardashian comparison).

It might have important legal connotations, but there are bigger and better examples out there to learn from, so let's let this one die.

I mean, I'm pretty certain if Gibson started DMCAing all the videos about their QC issues (or any other guitar company, for that matter), we'd all be up in arms about it. Just so happens that this was about a djent VST rather than something that anyone here is likely to give a shit about.
Sure, I mean... I give equal shits about djent and Gibson's business practices really... But if this was Gibson it would actually be a real issue with real-world connotations, because they're a fucking huge company with a 100year old business to consider, it really WOULD be newsworthy if they were guilty of the same thing, but not because it's guitar-related, it would be the same story if it were Ford, or Nike, or Nestle. It's a huge brand. So in essence this just illustrates how fucking small-time this is, that someone like Sturgis is just running a two-bit operation that can/will/did find itself in this hot mess so quickly.
 
It's illegal to remove reviews? What constitutes an official review?
No, the legal aspect comes from the abuse of copyright law. He feigned copyright infringement in order to get the video removed purely because he didn't like it. There was no copyright infringement, therefore he has abused the law.
 
Ha, well wouldn't you know it, I just sat down for my morning coffee, opened up youtube, and the first video in my suggestions was the original review vid... I guess he got it reinstated?


EDIT: I mean... it's quite fucking clear that this guy can't mix for shit, I actually wouldn't blame the product in this instance :ugh:

EDIT 2: Despite my rant about burying this shit in the trash where it belongs, I'm aware of the hypocrisy of my bumping the thread with further news about it. I was just intrigued about actually hearing what all the fuss was about. Stay in school, kids.

So hey, this threads gone all over the place but how about one more product Bulb's put his name on without vetting the shit company or poor quality of said product?

We've got some conflicting opinions on here about selling snake oil to guilible kids but selling literal junk or promoting companies that literally steal people's money is kinda non negotiably shitty, isnt it?
In a nutshell... always. :agreed: