Did Fredrik totally ditch DAR amps?

I got to play one of his guitars at NAMM 2011 through a DAR head....pretty rippin' tone!

 

Did Fredrik totally ditch DAR amps?

I got to play one of his guitars at NAMM 2011 through a DAR head....pretty rippin' tone!

DAR Amp at NAMM 2011 - YouTube

DAR amps doesn't even really exist anymore...

 

RebecHHHNNNNNNNNG Dirks. Man I'd rail that bitch so hard they could call me Thomas the fucking Tank Engine.

 

Oh, cool, so these are the Yapanese-made guitars... nice...

 

ya yaya ya

 

That amp-switching system is fucking awesome :lol:

 

...and the whole Cubase set up. I guess Haake is using the Cubase click. I wonder who is the master and puts it all on pause should something unforeseen happen.

 

Epic swenglish!

 

"And thanks for my crappy English." :lol:

 

That's my good friend Kent <3 yeah yeah yeah I think he did good!

 

I agree Ola, Kent's our bud - he's a good guy, and has one hell of a picking hand too. :metal:

AFAIK he doesn't even have one. I know he tried them, endorsed them, and helped design them, but from what I understand only four FBMs ever shipped. The dude from Acacia Strain got one or two, and at least one went to Australia. I didn't think Fredrik actually got his. Their last album was actually all the stock Cubase amp sims.

He has the original prototype still at the studio. I've played through it, and it sounds as heavy as it weighs :lol: I'm not certain, but I don't think he uses it much though.

I imagine with the amount of touring they do, that's a pretty reasonable set-up. Hell, they can probably carry most of their gear under their bus or at the very least, use a fairly small trailer behind the bus. A lot less weight = a lot less fuel. It'd also cut way down on shipping/rental costs when they play overseas.

This. They're among the lightest travelling bands I know of, and it's directly to keep tour costs down and speed of setup/teardown.

 

Also it seems to me the DAR is more of his studio amp. With all they have going on it wouldn't be as easy to work it into their system

 

Also it seems to me the DAR is more of his studio amp. With all they have going on it wouldn't be as easy to work it into their system

AFAIK he doesn't even have one. I know he tried them, endorsed them, and helped design them, but from what I understand only four FBMs ever shipped. The dude from Acacia Strain got one or two, and at least one went to Australia. I didn't think Fredrik actually got his. Their last album was actually all the stock Cubase amp sims.

Yes, but imagine how stupid it would look to have even one member of the band on stage with his phone out, or worse yet, with those damn glasses on. :lol:

"brb switching patches #concertlove"

 

Wow. I'm not really a big modeler guy, but that amp setup is absolutely awesome.

 

Incredibly rigid, but I suppose it fits the music, no?

 

Not really, man - no less rigid than pushing the buttons yourself if you're going to do them at the same time anyway, and Meshuggah isnt exactly a jam band. It's ingenious.

 

...if you're going to do them at the same time anyway.

That's what I was referring to :lol:

And, not that they have to be a jam band. If they use the same patches everytime, then it IS very awesome.

 

Yeah, but I don't think that's rigid - MOST bands do that, man. :lol:

 

I guess I always liked changing it up from gig to gig (when I was regularly gigging). Hell, for one gig, I brought in my Sovtek Mig head, and ran it side-by-side my Mesa Nomad with a Morley ABY. Had the GMajor/midi-board on the Mesa, and a DS-1 and echo pedal on the Sovtek. It was a mess, but it sounded pretty cool.

Made playing top40 slightly more exciting, I suppose!

 

I guess I always liked changing it up from gig to gig (when I was regularly gigging). Hell, for one gig, I brought in my Sovtek Mig head, and ran it side-by-side my Mesa Nomad with a Morley ABY. Had the GMajor/midi-board on the Mesa, and a DS-1 and echo pedal on the Sovtek. It was a mess, but it sounded pretty cool.

THATS probably why they have it set up the way they do :lol:

 

No doubt :lol:

 

Wow, pretty neat setup they have.

 

For their brand of metal, it's perfect.
I know Periphery does the same thing & even incorporates in-ear monitors. The computers change the axe-fx patches & runs their light show as well.
Not exactly for me, but I can see the reasoning behind it.

 

It will be cool when one day in the future this is possible with a cell phone, or even google glasses. Imagine being able to have an entire midi map be accessible and changeable on the go.

 

Its pretty cool how the Bass player will play in a different tuning than guitar. Wonder how he manages the open parts.

 

I really wish Premier Guitar would invest in a couple of lavaliers, that woman is awful with a mic. :lol:

 

Actually, I think a large part of it is that he's so damn scandinavian in the way he talks, and she's probably used to the "standard recipe" guitar tech interview, and so when he plops in his swedish "yeah yeah!" magic, she doesn't know if that's him starting a sentence rich in content, or just him being swedish

 

Wow, they got all the ö's and å's right.

 

im surprised they are still using ultras.

obviously they get the job done for them but i would have thought Fractal would just have given them afx2's?

 

As I understand, Fractal doesn't give anyone units - even the guys in PEriphery and Vai and Petrucci pay for theirs.

 

hmm i wasn't aware. i guess that says something for the unit if all these guys are paying for them when they probably have a pretty wide selection of amps they could have for free.

 

I imagine with the amount of touring they do, that's a pretty reasonable set-up. Hell, they can probably carry most of their gear under their bus or at the very least, use a fairly small trailer behind the bus. A lot less weight = a lot less fuel. It'd also cut way down on shipping/rental costs when they play overseas.

 

It's awesome :agreed: in one interview Misha said that other than guitars, they have all their rigs in two medium-sized road cases. If they needed to, each guy could take his rig in a carry-on bag. Probably to make room for all the guitars they tour with :lol: In Mesh's case, it looks like they only have two or three guitars each though, so they could pretty much tour in a minivan haha.

He has the original prototype still at the studio. I've played through it, and it sounds as heavy as it weighs :lol: I'm not certain, but I don't think he uses it much though.

Everything I've heard from it sounds killer :metal: the Tuzzia sounded great, too.

I think the integration of all these things is such a boon for touring musicians. As venues and audiences get smaller, lowering costs is getting more and more important. Being able to automate your entire set to reduce your crew costs is unbelievably effective.

:agreed: Not to mention how much more consistent things are when you've got your digital rigs in a road case being run by just a laptop, with no cables or anything on the floor. Way less things to go wrong.

 

Slick setup. So I guess the click track for each song sends out midi messages at specific times for patch changes. You gotta hope everybody knows where the "1" is.:agreed:

 

Brilliant vid! :yesway:

That's one of the most efficient and awesome setups I've seen. It all does the job they need it to and has the added bonus of being incredibly light to travel with. It's perfect for them. I can only see things going more this way for others in the future too.

 

DAR isn't over with, the dude is still making/sending out amps that he's owed to people. I know he's not taking any money from anyone and will only take a payment once the amp is ready to ship...

Too bad that all happened, I really dug that Forza head.