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My Jackson Kelly 7 string adventures!

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#1 · (Edited)
Greetings dudes.
It has been a few years since I have found myself here or even found myself playing guitar. I havnt really been playing guitar for something like 4 or 5 years and its actually really sucked. I got burned out with music and guitar playing. I wouldn't say I have been depressed about it but it definitely left me feeling pretty empty and "without purpose" as most would feel when they walk away from something they have been focused on so heavily 24/7 for some 15yrs or so. Every 12-18 months I might try and find that magic again but nothing has really worked.

Anyway, for some unknown reason, 2 weeks ago I was interested to see what 7 strings happen to be on ebay... and I found something. After some umming and ahhing which i realised wasn't going away, 1 week later I decided YOLO is the spice of life and I bought this! The thing thats surprising me (and is a big relief) im playing it a lot! My fingers hurt from not having callasus but im happy playing guitar again. Its a feeling I didnt realise how much I missed. My playing is sloppy as fuck, but I'm playing and its fun!

Jackson Kelly KE-7 with Dimarzio evolution neck and X2N bridge pickup (which is super bassy... im kind of amazed at how bass heavy this pickup is. That being said I'm playing this thing in GCGCGCE and at 25.5 I havnt found the sweet spot for string tentions just yet)

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I hate black headstocks but I wouldnt say I hate this bluey purpley finish, but its very boring to me, so perfect excuse to have a little fun with it! And I still love the look of deep figured natural wood so I'm going to put a nice top on it. I'm still working on the legistics of doing it but I'm confident I can work it out. Its more about finding tools to use so I dont have to spend shittons of money on tools I'm likely to only use for this 1-off project, rather than "can I do it at all". I have built a guitar before so it should all be doable.

So the plan:
  • I have already ordered a quilted maple top (pictured below) and its surprisingly hard to find blanks big enough! But then I guess Kellys are massive! This top is 23.2"x18.4"x0.2" and is only just big enough.
  • I need to remove 5-6mm from the top of the guitar body, which hopefully a local timber merchant will help me out and let me use/get them to use a planner.
  • Glue the new top on - just got to figure out the best way to make sure I line the join up with the center line. I expect I will try and make a template from the body itself.
  • Once the top is on, its just a bunch of routing and filing to bring back the original contours.
  • I will also make some deeper contouring on the back and reshape the heal so its not such a brick.
  • A useful thing from adding this 5mm top is I can remove the pickup rings and reposition my electronics. Put my 3way toggle switch and volume pot where I want them and remove my tone pot.
  • I will then stain the wood to really make it pop in a firey golden brown kinda finish.
  • I will also add a veneer to the headstock to match. Also a jackson decal.
  • Nice high gloss finish that I will likely get professionally done. I dont trust myself to do it well enough if I'm honest.
  • Stain the fretboard to darken it up a bit.
  • I might roast the neck with a heatgun to darken it up a bit. Undecided on this at the moment tho.
  • New hardware (black)
  • I might swap the pickups out for a nice set of BKPs later on. Depends how I feel about these Dimarzios

The top!
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To be continued.

EDIT: Wow I talk too much... TLDR I bought a fun Jackson and am going to mod the beast. Fun times!
 
#2 ·
Cool man. I had a Jackson Stars KE7 (dunno the actual model name, but, y'know) back when I lived in Okinawa. I remember digging it, but I was too young to appreciate much of anything I guess & didn't keep it very long. I also had an x2n in that thing...and I also have an x2n in my carvin & bc rich & have had one in an ibanez S as well. One tip I've learned, try lowering the pickup a little more than you normally would. There's so much output on those things they can handle being a little further away from the strings. I think it cleans up the low-end a bit, gives you a little more string definition but still keeps the balls and general feel of the pickup. I'll usually wind up having the bass-end of the pup a little lower than the high side as well.
 
#3 ·
Cool thanks for the tip! The good thing about my maple top plans is I will be able to remove my pickup rings and have the pickups sitting lower into the body so this will work really well for that.
 
#10 · (Edited)
So last night I had the idea Evertune... and I'm undecided.

Pros are obvious with the tuning and stability etc. With the 5mm maple top, I can fill my TOM bridge holes, glue the maple top over all the bridge and ferrel holes and and rout the whole thing out for an evertune bridge.

I do have 1 main worry, however. Kellys are slightly top heavy as it is, would routing this much wood out of the body make the neck dive any worse? I have it balanced by putting the strap button on the top neck bolt, but would making the body lighter unbalance it again?

If anyone has any advice at all on Evertunes, I'd be very grateful. It's a lot more money than I had planned but if its worth it, I'd like to do it.

EDIT: So after a bit of reseaching, I cannot get an Evertune :( The only available 7 string model is the F type and this is too low for this guitar. Sad day.
 
#11 ·
UPDATE! I got wood!

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I also got a a few veneers for the headstock to choose from. A crap load of new tools to put to use too.
Drill with 70pc bit kit.
Obital sander with about 150 sanding pads of all grits for wood sanding and finishing.
10 or so clamps
spokeshave and nice new set of rasps and files.

Just waiting for my router and router table to arrive now.
 
#13 ·
K dudes... I am unsure what to do with my wood, for this top. I would like some suggestions.
The wood I got above is really orange... like REALLY orange IRL. Its a really nice top but I was more after a golden maple colour for this guitar. Now I have this top in person, I think its too orange for this guitar.

So I bought this top instead :lol:
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For ref, its this finish im going to aim for but with a darker burst around some of the edges:
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I'll be honest, im very torn as to which top to go with but I will see when I have both here in person. I expect I'll go with this newer spalted curly maple top as I'm more confident I can get that firey golden finish pictured above. I got myself some hardwood for templating today so maybe I'll just make another Kelly replica with a few changes of my own. Longer scale, evertune bridge, or maybe a multiscale. Time will tell!
 
#15 · (Edited)
The 1st orangey top is 4mm and the 2nd spalted top is 8mm. That's a point, actually as the 2nd top will give me a better look as it is thicker and I can have more of it on the edge contours.

EDIT: Not to clutter out this thread with random posts, I'll add this edit here:
I also just bought this spalted ambrosia curly maple top too! Absolutely stunning! But that will be for another guitar I have had in my head for a while.
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After a quick Google, the Ambrosia part of this maple is: "Much like Spalted Maple and other forms of figured maple, Ambrosia Maple is technically not a specific species of Maple, but rather a general description of any type of Maple that has been infested by ambrosia beetles. The beetles bore into the tree, and with it bring fungus that discolors the wood."
 
#16 ·
The 1st orangey top is 4mm and the 2nd spalted top is 8mm. That's a point, actually as the 2nd top will give me a better look as it is thicker and I can have more of it on the edge contours.
That's the part I was curious about.

Also, it's gonna be pretty tough sourcing a thickness planer that'll do the full width of a Kelly at a time, but idk, you might have more ample resources where you are. Any time i'm doing something that big, I plane the thickness of the guitar when it's in two halves and join if afterward but obviously that's not an option here. If you can't find a guy with a planer wide enough you could always do it by hand with a sharpened jack plane.
 
#17 ·
I have a local luthier friend who is going to help me out with that actually, which im just really lucky about. I will try and get hold of one myself in the future and plane all my pieces before glueing. I do live near a bunch of timber merchants so for future wood purchases I might go to them and see if they can plane my body blanks to the right thickness when buying :yesway:
 
#18 ·
I would hesitate to run anything thinner than 1/4" through a thickness planer, especially something with a lot of figure. Material thinner than that can be a bit floppy and the planer will destroy it in short order. Get a longer hand plane (Stanley No. 6 or longer), a toothing blade, regular blade and a card scraper to bring them down to thickness. Oh, and be sure you or work bench is flat and stable. Another option, befriend someone with a thickness sander.
 
#19 ·
Update:
I got wood again!

THIS is the top I will now be using for this guitar. The other top was too orange in person and while the quilt was nice, this 2nd newer top is going to be a much better quilt for the Kelly shape. It's a much lighter maple colour so staining will be much easier and give the results I'm looking for. Its also double the thickness so thats just a straight up win.

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