Sort of. APC makes a few rackmount ones that are pretty shallow. 2" might be pushing it though.

 

I could just tape a power bar in there though, but I doubt it offers the protection of my current power conditioner. If it's down to dropping $250 or so on an 8u rack case or $200 on a power conditioner that will fit in my current case, I think I'd rather have the conditioner since places want $80-$100 to ship a rack case to Canuckistan :lol:

Also, can someone un-Simmons me? :lol:

 

You have a rack that won't fit a power conditioner? Hell, my G Major is about 8" deep.

 

I have a Gator shallow rack, the case is about 14" deep or so. Most of my gear goes ALMOST to the rear rails, there's probably about 2" or so where I could rack up the conditioner. Makes it a lot easier to carry, not all unbalanced and shit.

 

So, your power conditioner is the deepest thing in your rack?

Looking at the dimensions on my Furman, it is around 10" deep. Even then, that should leave you ample room to get the back cover on after you plug everything into it.

 

No, my current rack is full :lol: 2u for my pre-amp, 2u for the Axe, 2u for my power amp. I want to rack it in the back since the front is all taken up.

 

I've seen some rack-mounted power distribution strips that are nothing more than a glorified power bar, but they likely don't do any line filtering or offer any protection. Or who knows? Maybe they're decent. :shrug:

Leviton 19-Inch Rack Mount Surge Protective Device (SPD) - Power Distribution - Leviton 5505

 

That looks about what I need, but like you said it's not really a power conditioner, just a rack mount power bar. Anyone here run their gear off of a power bar for any length of time? I'm sure it's safe, but will the noise be excessive?

 

Ah, I got you. Honestly, it sounds like you are completely SOL. You need to buy an 8u rack.

What preamp are you using that is not 1U?

 

VHT GP3, which is really sexy I may add.

 

I think you guys missed JJ saying he wants to mount it in the back (heh) BEHIND the rest of the gear in his rack. Otherwise, he needs to get a bigger rack.

 

I dont have a rack so i just use a power strip with some surge protection and i have never had noise problems :shrug: I eventually want to get a 2U rack and throw a Gmajor and a Conditioner in there but i havent gotten around to it.

 

The Leviton power strip does say it has noise attenuation. I'm guessing it depends a lot on the quality of your power and how sensitive your gear is to noisy or bad power. I've run my gear off a crappy little 4-spot power bar for a while, but i think it was letting noise through. But this is in our rehearsal space, which can be a little dodgy.

 

Daft as it may sound, but can you get a power conditioning plug, kinda like those RCD plugs? That way you could mount a shallow power strip in your rack and have the conditioning seperate. I know you can get pukka power conditioning extension leads for home cinema and stuff, but you'd only really need a single outlet.

 

I just looked on Leviton's site and found the spec sheet. There's a more expensive one that has a 20A load current, as opposed to the other which has 15A. Just wondering if I'll need that extra juice or not?

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibcG..._HTML/ibcGetAttachment.jsp?cItemId=maQN2ktihNil2oR9r.dppA&label=IBE&appName=IBE

There's a link to the specs. Most of it doesn't really mean anything to me, but I see the depth is 1.71", which would be perfect for me.

 

Just realized it won't work, since the plugs are on the other side of the power strip, thus they would need extra space for the plugs. Looks like there's no way around buying another rack case I will now have 3 unused rack cases sitting in my damn basement...

 

You could always mount it backwards. :erk:

 

I don't think my lids are deep enough. Need 1.7" + lets say like 2" at a bare minimum to keep the plugs from getting fucked up when I put the lids on Oh well, was worth a shot anyways.

 

Get a nice Furman power strip (some of which have conditioning) and secure it in the back with some tape, duct tape, or velcro. 100% of the functionality, 10% of the size, and literally half the cost cause everything rackmount is super expensive.

 

I think I've seen power conditioning power strips before. The Furman power strip Josh mentioned may be one of them.

 

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Have you tried mounting it vertically, instead of horizontally? Might take some modification, some fancy brackets from a hardware store, and you'll lose some access to the back of your gear while it's loaded in there, but it could work if the 6u rack is tall enough?

 

Something like this... viewing from the side....

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If that makes any sense :lol:

 

Hrm, would be cool, unfortunately 6u isn't tall enough

I might look into the Furman power strip other's mentioned though, could duct tape it to the bottom like was mentioned.

 

get 2 4 space racks, seriously. your back will thank you. also

http://www.a-neutronics.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=68

 

get 2 4 space racks, seriously. your back will thank you. also

A-Neutronics

disagree.

Look what power lifting that monster every day has done for John Petrucci:

:flex:

 

Maybe it's just me, but I find the whole "I can't carry it it's too heavy" thing a little silly. Most amp heads are pretty heavy, and most racks are pretty heavy. Deal with it, I guess. I don't ever really have any problems with my 8 space rack, and it's pretty loaded. Wheels are your friend :agreed: all you have to do is lift it into a truck or trailer and lift it back out. No fuss. Easy.

 

^ True, but after switching over from a freakin' heavy 160 watt tube head to a rack with tubes to 100% digital/solid state, I must say the lighter racks are very easy to get accustomed to.

 

:agreed:

There's a huge difference between even a 50 lb 2x10 and a 95 lb 4x10 in terms of 'haulability.'

 

My rack is liftable now. It probably weighs about 65 pounds. If I get a molded and semi shallow case like I have now, I don't think it should be that much harder. Also, I'm thinking I may have to go with the 8u simply for rack cooling. I left my rig on for an hour while I was surfing, and it was uncomfortable to leave my hand on the GP3 because of the warmth. It's funny, it's generally power amps that are hot, but the Carvin doesn't really heat up that much.

I'm looking at possibly buying some 40mm fans and building a little 1u fan unit to put above the GP3 too. I guess I'll wait and see how leaving a space empty above it helps.

 

Belkin : PureAV™ Isolator Home Theater Surge Protector by Belkin

It might not offer the same level of filtering that a top end Furman does (I doubt anything does) but Belkin offer a lifetime warranty covering your connected gear & the powerboard vs Furmans 1 year warranty. Simply based on the info from each companies website my guess is the Belkin is on a similar level to the Furman Merit series but you may be able to fit it in your lid or even mount it to the back of the rack somehow.

 

He's trying to look cool for the kiddies. And failing.

And s7eve has the idea that I was going for.

 

It is the current promo pic Dimarzio are using so I think it is new.

On topic I was in town yesterday looking for some gear and I noticed Monster also make filtered powerboards with a similar warranty to Belkin but apparently the Monster boards have better quality filters. I know everyone hates monster (with good reason) but it seems like they have the best product for this application.

 

Yeah, the point is kind of moot now since I really do need another rack case for ventilation