Sturgis has made some good sounding records but he seems like a mega douche.

 

Ain't nobody got time for a 20 minute Youtube video of some guy I've never heard about talking about a product I've never heard about. The first minute sounded more like he was being put in a prison camp in Siberia for his views than that his video was taken down.

 

This. :lol:

What's the TLDW?

 

"Bullying" "Victim". He sounds like hes on the verge of crying in the video. Man kids are fucking pussies now-a-days.

 

:dillon:

 

Everyone involved is an asshole. Sturgis for doing what he did and the kid for pretending he isn't making the follow up video to get it right up Sturgis for doing what he did.

 

:dgaf:

 

Video sounds like a "Whos bulge is smaller" contest looser complaining about the results.

 

Don't know the story, don't care, but that's a punchable face lol

 

Wait! Guys!! There's a new Misha Mansoor product!! Who's excited for this new development!? I'm sure it's yet another high quality product to attract his legions of djent fans here at MG.org!

 

You mean the $2600 (CAD) Made In China 5150 he's currently slinging? BUT IT HAS A BUILT IN GATE AND BOOST!

I can't wait to get my Mooer Preamp Live and tone match the Apex preamp.

 

And Lucas or that other guy that trolls us for being old didn't post it either. It's spreading!

 

Whole lot of :dgaf: about basically everything in this thread. Can we save the djent drama for /7/?

 

To be fair (and I haven't watched the video) calling in a copyright strike on a review you don't like is an abuse of the copyright system, among other things.

 

Dude on the preview for the video in the OP has the exact same "Pedophile Chic" John Waters style facial hair as Joey Sturgis.

Only styled as a Van ****, which is the douchiest facial hair style of all time.

Literally the only time the Van **** doesn't make you look like a douchebag is if you are actually one of the Three Musketeers.

And let's be honest, even legit Musketeers are intrinsically douchey. They don't even have real swords. They have little swishy rapiers for play fighting. You can't decapitate someone with a musketeer sword. They run around wearing dresses and writing poetry.

If you're growing facial hair and are like, "I should grow it in the style of the French!" something is wrong with you.

The only time something resembling the Van **** has ever been cool is when Sean Connery had one in Highlander. But he's also Sean Connery. It's like, an exception proves the rule sort of thing, and he had more of a Wild West horseshoe style mustache going. Even then, everyone knows Sean Connery got decapitated in Highlander for his poor choice in facial hair. Count the number of times Sean Connery has gotten decapitated in a movie when he didn't have a Van **** musketeer thing going.

Although technically the one Sean Connery had in Highlander and the sweet one Val Kilmer had in Tombstone are sort of their own thing, because they didn't have the chin portion of the douche-keter beard.

 

Dude on the preview for the video in the OP has the exact same "Pedophile Chic" John Waters style facial hair as Joey Sturgis. <snipped for space>.

:lol:

 

I'm just never going to get over the 'here's my face' thumbnail and 'here's my face talking' video thing.

 

Actually the "kid" is an Army Veteran

He just wanted to tell the story. I care less about the VST since I would never buy it, dont really follow "Djent" but dont hate it also in fact some guitar work is actually cool to listen... (the voices mehhhh, just like Dream Theather).... its the abusive power that Im kinda perplexed.

Anyway Joey felt his ass pushed so he "apologized"

 

Bros, are we gonna act like those teeth aren't a thing? Get yo grill fixed boo!

 

Let's not forget, this is the dude who was such a douche, and whose following/fanboys were such a nuisance that the guys in the Sneap forum made him his own forum, and MADE him moderate it, just to keep that shit separate and away from everything else as much as possible :lol:

 

:dgaf:
There's so much gear drama with the djent crowd but no interesting music being made :scratch:

 

Ahh for the days when people in metal had 'core values' that were Satan, beer and women

 

:hesright:

 

Unless you know the person reviewing the gear personally, how can you tell if they are not shilling?
Secondly, the Van **** beard is not a paedophile style facial choice. I always associate paedos with the full beard look. They want to hide all of the face to avoid recognition. :rofl:

 

Camel boy

 

:lol:

 

litigation incoming

 

I saw that too:

Wether (sic)[1] you realize it or not you committed a crime. He has the legal right to sue you. You falsely accused him of committing a crime and that is going to be a tough thing to get past for both parties. I wish you both the best of luck.

[1] Actually a castrated ram, or in this case, goat, goats being more metal.

Yikes. It's too late for you at this point, but a note for others here.
Disclaimer: this isn't legal advice it is general information about the law for you to consider when speaking with your attorney about your individual case.

With that out of the way, I'm a copyright attorney. When you make a DMCA ("takedown") claim, you do so under penalty of perjury. Perjury is a felony. That means 1+ years in jail.

It often doesn't get to that, however, there are potential civil penalties as well. They can include cash compensation. In one instance the false claimant had to issue an apology and take a class on copyright law.
The civil penalties vary widely.

Being caught up in an action for a false claim can be fairly broad as well. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled on a case where they held that not considering if something is Fair Use or not before issuing a takedown can trigger civil and criminal liability.

In short, be VERY careful about takedown claims. If you don't have a good degree of certainty about the validity of your claim, be very cautious about proceeding.

But more importantly, I found some old Sturgis memes:

 

Comme on guys.. we are talking about abuse of power here not joking around about peoples physical appearance... not cool

 

:drumpf:

 

This is Kardashian-levels waste of time/space/energy/molecules/oxygen/history. Can we please, please ignore this type of horseshit from here on out? We've got riffs to write and gear to pine over.

 

This is Kardashian-levels waste of time/space/energy/molecules/oxygen/history.

I agree with that completely when it comes to most youtube video bullshit (still haven't watched the video in the OP, for example), but in this case I agree with Josh:

To be fair (and I haven't watched the video) calling in a copyright strike on a review you don't like is an abuse of the copyright system, among other things.

What I'm getting from this isn't oh, I should feel sorry for youtube guy and go subscribe to his channel, it's Sturgis responds to people posting negative reviews of his products by abusing the law to have them removed.

I mean, I'm pretty certain if Gibson started DMCAing all the videos about their QC issues (or any other guitar company, for that matter), we'd all be up in arms about it. Just so happens that this was about a djent VST rather than something that anyone here is likely to give a shit about.

 

I watched both videos.

Yeah, the reviewer whines a bit - but I would expect that from a young guy who was falsely accused by the manufacturer of a product he negatively reviewed. He's young, he's probably not run into this kind of petty horseshit before... particularly from a company he paid good money to.

Moving on... fake copyright claims... already mentioned and a huge mistake. Sturgis could lose everything over a nerdrage. Anyone connected with this product and this company probably needs to do a little soul-searching and consider whether it's wise to move forward with a guy this impetuous.